Friday, May 19, 2017

Episode 305: Paul & Artie

Episode 305: Paul & Artie
The music of Simon and Garfunkel serves as the soundtrack for a night of wine and wise-crackers as Cathy Ladman sits in as guest Co-Host. Then stick around for a new segment... "The Rock Solid After Party" with guest Kailynn West of the band Tiny Stills.
From May 18, 2017

With your host:

Pat Francis

Liner Notes

  • Rock Solid now has a Patreon page. It's the only place where you can get giveaways, bonus content, and other neat perks. Check it out at

  • Today's guest co-host is comedian and actress Cathy Ladman! You may remember her from such films as Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead, My Fellow Americans, Charlie Wilson's War, White Oleander, and What Planet Are You From? She now has a recurring role in the upcoming Showtime TV show I'm Dying Up Here about stand up comedy in the 70s. She's been on the Tonight Show nine times, most of them with Johnny Carson. Cathy is also the first comedian Pat ever saw live in a comedy club.

  • Today's topic is the music of Simon & Garfunkel. Cathy loves Simon & Garfunkel; she took Poetry 101 at Queens College, which is the same class S&G took when they went to Queens College. Pat recently saw Paul Simon at a small invite-only show.

  • There is plenty of discussion about Judaism and hair.

  • Paul Simon's lyrics are very visual; Pat has a big book of Paul's lyrics in his collection. Crazy how he wrote these iconic songs when he was in his early twenties. Meanwhile Pat was telling dick jokes in front of half-drunks at the Giggle Factory in Elbow Lint, Illinois in his early twenties.

  • A lot of the Wrecking Crew play on Simon & Garfunkel's songs.

  • Cathy's son-in-law is a basketball player. He's 7-foot-3. That's 1 inch shy of Andre the Giant. He has to sleep in a custom bed, but when he visits Cathy's house he has to sleep diagonally. His wife is only 5-foot-8.

  • Simon & Garfunkel were together for 13 years, they put out 5 albums, and then that was it.

  • More discussions about plastic surgery, mothers, NYC bagels, and SCTV. Cathy also shows off pictures of her kids and a fake mustache she found on the ground.

  • Cathy is on Twitter @CathyLadman. You can also go to her website

  • After a quick break, we get to a new segment on the show, the Rock Solid After Party. Today's guest is Kailynn West from the band Tiny Stills. Kailynn is working on her second album and you can contribute to her Kickstarter for it HERE.

  • Kailynn has been playing the guitar since she was 12. She first played the saxophone. She can also play the banjo and the mandolin. Kailynn is the core of Tiny Stills; she plays all of the instruments on the studio recordings, but has a live band.

  • Her first album, Falling Is Like Flying, was inspired by her getting held up at gunpoint in 2011. She wrote her first batch of songs to cope with it. She made her own artwork and also made a music video with puppets, which she edited herself.

  • Kailynn's parents are not musical, but her older sister is. She self-taught herself on the guitar at first, then she took lessons. As a youth, Kailynn listened to punk, grunge, DC Hardcore. She finds that her music has been compared a lot to Rilo Kiley.

  • Kailynn's website is The Kickstarter for her new album ends on May 31.

  • The name of the band comes from Kailynn's belief that each of her songs is a glimpse into her life, a.k.a. a "Tiny Still" photo.

  • Kaitlynn sings a song from her upcoming album live in the studio called "My Skin."

Time Song Album Artist Who
00:30:00 Hey Schoolgirl Tom & Jerry Simon & Garfunkel Pat
00:30:00 Kathy’s Song Sounds of Silence Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
00:30:00 America Bookends Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
00:35:00 You Can Tell the World Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M. Simon & Garfunkel Pat
00:40:00 Leaves That Are Green Sounds of Silence Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
00:40:00 April Come She Will Sounds of Silence Simon & Garfunkel Pat
00:45:00 The Dangling Conversation Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
00:45:00 I Am a Rock Sounds of Silence Simon & Garfunkel Pat
00:45:00 So Long, Frank Lloyd Wright Bridge over Troubled Water Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
00:50:00 Somewhere They Can’t Find Me Sounds of Silence Simon & Garfunkel Pat
00:55:00 Fakin’ It Bookends Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
01:05:00 Richard Cory Sounds of Silence Simon & Garfunkel Pat
01:05:00 A Hazy Shade of Winter Bookends Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
01:15:00 For Emily, Whenever I May Find Her Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme Simon & Garfunkel Pat
01:20:00 A Poem on the Underground Wall Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
01:20:00 Mrs. Robinson Bookends Simon & Garfunkel Pat
01:25:00 Flowers Never Bend with the Rainfall Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme Simon & Garfunkel Cathy
01:30:00 My Little Town Still Crazy After All These Years Simon & Garfunkel Pat
01:40:00 Starting Over Is a Lot Like Growing Up Falling Is Like Flying Tiny Stills Pat
01:50:00 15-17 Months Falling Is Like Flying Tiny Stills Pat
01:55:00 My Skin N/A Tiny Stills Kailynn West (Live in Studio)
02:10:00 You Drive Me Crazy Falling Is Like Flying Tiny Stills Pat

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