Friday, March 10, 2017

Episode 295: Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2017



Episode 295: Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2017
Pat, Murray and Kyle play some of their favorite songs from the 2017 Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees.
From March 9, 2017

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

Murray Valeriano


00:00:00 Pat, Murray, and Kyle welcome us to the show. It's time for the third annual "Pat and Murray Talk About the New Class of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees and Play Songs by Them and Then Talk About Those Songs" episode. I keep telling them to shorten the name, but no dice. The Class of 2017 is as follows:

  • Electric Light Orchestra
  • Joan Baez
  • Journey
  • Nile Rodgers (Award for Musical Excellence)
  • Pearl Jam
  • Tupac Shakur
  • Yes

Pat and Murray briefly discuss last year's non-performer inductee Bert Berns, who wrote a bunch of hit songs and then died at 38 of rheumatic fever. Rheumatic fever? "Was he swimming in the Nile River?" asks Murray.
00:05:00 We're going in alphabetical order and because of Pat's weird sorting system, the first artist is Joan Baez. Political artist, prominent in the 60s and 70s. Once jumped Bob Dylan's bones. Good ol' Joan Baez. The first song Pat plays is "Diamonds & Rust" off the album Diamonds & Rust. Then he plays her cover of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" off the album Blessed Are.... One more is "Forever Young" off of Classics. "Are you sure you don't have any more songs she ruined in there?" wonders Murray. Murray doesn't know much about Joan, he just doesn't like her music. But the gang agree that she belongs in the Hall of Fame.
00:10:00 They wonder who will induct Joan Baez, Pat guesses Sheryl Crow. A brief discussion on Sheryl ensues, as Murray takes a jab at her for "ripping off those dudes" on her early albums. Other possibilities are Stevie Nicks, Bonnie Raitt. What about Bob Dylan? Maybe, if you could understand the guy. But enough about Joannie B and Bobby D, let's talk about Electric Light Orchestra. The inductees are Jeff Lynne (founding member and head honcho), Richard Tandy (keyboardist), Bev Bevan (founding member and drummer), and Roy Wood (founding member and guitarist). Pat takes umbrage with Wood getting in because he was only on the first album and part of the second one. And none of the other members who were in for years and years are getting in. Oh boy, it's the Bob Welch situation all over again and NO ONE wants to dredge up that rant from the depths of the local watering hole.
00:15:00 Murray kicks off the ELO music with "The Diary of Horace Wimp" off of Discovery. Pat's first pick is "Poker" off of Face the Music. Off the album Secret Messages, Murray plays "Rock 'n' Roll Is King". Shout out to Ricky Morton and Robert Gibson on that one. Pat's second is off of Eldorado, it's "Boy Blue".
00:20:00 Pat finishes off the ELO songs with "Tightrope" off of A New World Record. But WAIT, Murray calls an audible and plays "All Over the World" off of All Over the World: The Very Best of Electric Light Orchestra.
Up next is Journey! The band with, as Murray calls him, "Arnold Palmer" as lead singer. Pat thinks that Arnel has now been in the band so long that he's no longer trying to imitate Steve Perry, but he's now singing more in his own natural voice. "So he sang in a different language?" says Murray. The most recent Journey concert Pat went to, he didn't enjoy.
00:25:00 Pat and Murray chat about the Journey members going in. Jonathan Cain (keyboardist), Ainsley Dunbar (founding member and drummer), Steve Perry (vocalist) Gregg Rolie (founding member and vocalist), Neal Schon (founding member and guitarist), Steve Smith (drummer), and Ross Valory (founding member and bassist). Pat believes that these are the guys from the entire history of the band that should be inducted.
00:30:00 Pat's first Journey song is "Anytime" off the album Infinity. Great song, Murray forgot all about it. He recently watched a Journey concert and remembered how many great songs the band has. He's a preacher's kid, so he JUST missed out on Journey's heyday. Pat feels lucky to have seen them on the Escape Tour and the Frontiers Tour, where "The Groover from Vancouver" Bryan Adams opened for them. Murray: "Not 'The Axe from Halifax'?" Murray's first pick is "Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'" off of Evolution. Murray loves how he mocks the woman at the end of the song.
00:35:00 Pat's second Journey pick is an obscure one called "Only Solutions" off of the Tron Soundtrack. Pat just wanted to highlight a deeper cut. Murray's next is "Send Her My Love" off the album Frontiers. "You can smell the 80s on it, can't ya," notes Murray. Pat is quick to point out that Side 1 of Frontiers is perfect and most of Side 2 sucks donkey schlong. The one Side 2 songs Pat enjoys is the opener, "Edge of the Blade".
00:40:00 Pat plays a song from the DEMO TAPE that got Steve Perry into Journey. The song is "If You Need Me, Call Me" off of Perry's album Greatest Hits + Five Unreleased. Yup, the guy's got pipes. That's why Journey's manager basically forced Steve Perry on the band. He just dumped him on them like a baby at a fire station.
Our fourth band on the docket is Pearl Jam. One of the most influential bands of the 90s and today. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden. If you had hair spray and a trace of makeup, your band was gonna get kicked in its ass by those guys. The inductees are Jeff Ament (bassist), Matt Cameron (drummer), Stone Gossard (guitarist), Dave Krusen (drummer), Mike McCready (guitarist), and Eddie Vedder (singer). With the exception of Cameron, everyone going into the Hall of Fame is a founding member.
00:45:00 Murray curiously notes that Dave Abbruzzese, drummer on Vs. and Vitalogy, is not getting inducted. And there are a bunch of drummers that were glossed over in the Pearl Jam 20 documentary that weren't mentioned. Murray kicks off the Pearl Jam music with "Wishlist" off the album Yield. Murray gushes over Vedder's lyrics. Pat's first PJ song is "The Fixer" from the album Backspacer.
00:50:00 Murray thinks the opening to "The Fixer" sounds like Kiss. And HEEEEEERE'S PAULIE! The Starchild makes an appearance, talks about inviting Dave Abbruzzese over for dinner (with many s-filled treats), and makes Murray tear up laughing. Murray plays his next song, "Rearviewmirror" off of Vs.. Pat's second pick is "Mind Your Manners" off the most recent album Lightning Bolt. Murray was disappointed with Lightning Bolt because he heard MYM and was excited. Then he heard "Sirens" on MTV and fell asleep. Pat plays one more, this one from Vitalogy, it's "Better Man".
00:55:00 Nile Rodgers is finally going in. He's getting the Award for Musical Excellence, I guess to include his work as a musician, producer, and writer. Murray plays a song that Nile plays on and wrote, "Get Lucky" by Daft Punk off the album Random Access Memories. Kyle finds the song and album UNLISTENABLE!!!!! Oh Kyle, you hot takin' son of a gun. Nile also produced Ric Ocasek's solo album Fireball Zone. Pat plays "Come Back".
01:00:00 Back to back shoutouts to Christy Stratton. First Ric, then Diana Ross. Off of Diana, it's "Upside Down". Nile produced that one too and it sounds it. Murray: "Is she (Diana Ross) the one that went crazy?" EVERY TIME! EVERY FUCKING TIME HE ASKS THIS QUESTION!!!!!!! Holy crap, Murray, WRITE IT DOWN!!!! Anyway, Pat plays another Nile-produced band, Duran Duran. Off the album Notorious, it's "Skin Trade". Murray used to be a closet Duran Duran fan, but now he's out and proud. Pat plays another 80s-centric band that was under Nile's direction, INXS. Off of The Swing, it's "Original Sin". Rock in Peace Michael Hutchence.
01:05:00 Let's venture into the realm of hip hop with the late Tupac Shakur, or 2Pac. Not Pat and Murray's type of music, but they agree that he should be in. And he's still showing up! He's been dead for 20 years, but he's still putting out music and showing up in hologram form like he's on Star Trek. Murray plays the song "California Love" featuring Dr. Dre off of All Eyez on Me. Pat doesn't know any 2Pac, so he just went to iTunes and picked a popular song. It's "Changes" off the album Greatest Hits. Bruce Hornsby shoutout. Tupac was 25 when he died.
01:10:00 A little side track. Former guest Peter Pardini's Chicago documentary debuted at #1 in the 25-44 demo when it aired on CNN. Murray is a little confused as to why a Chicago documentary is airing on CNN. But CNN has aired stuff other than constant news (Anthony Bourdain, the Decades documentaries, etc.), plus CNN is on a LOT of people's TVs. So good on ya, Peter! Murray has one more 2Pac song, "Wanted Dead or Alive" featuring Snoop Dogg from the album The Prophet: The Best of the Works.
01:15:00 Talk about a band that's long overdue: It's Yes! Prog rock icons of the highest order. For all the jokes about "Prog Rock Bullshit," Pat and Murray are big prog rock fans. The guys getting in: Jon Anderson (founding member and vocalist), Bill Bruford (founding member and drummer), Steve Howe (guitarist), Tony Kaye (founding member and keyboardist), Trevor Rabin (vocalist and guitarist), Chris Squire (founding member and bassist), Rick Wakeman (keyboardist), and Alan White (drummer). Rock in peace Chris Squire, the only man on every Yes album. Would have been nice if Yes went in when Chris was still alive, of course.... *sigh*. Murray kicks it off with "Love Will Find a Way" off the album Big Generator. From the poppy era of Yes in the 80s. I ain't complaining.
01:20:00 Pat's first pick is off of The Yes Album. The song is "Yours Is No Disgrace". Classic Yes sound there. Murray goes back to the 80s pop sound with "It Can Happen" off of 90125. Pat and Murray chat classic prog rock: King Crimson, Yes, Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Pat's favorite prog rock album is Asia's self-titled debut. The two wonder if Rush, Kansas, and Pink Floyd count as prog rock.
01:25:00 Also from The Yes Album, Pat plays "I've Seen All Good People". Jon Anderson not in Yes currently, but he will play with the band at the ceremony. The big wish is that these one night reunions--Journey, Yes, etc.--will spark interest for a bigger reunion tour. Pat's last Yes song is off the album Union, which combined Yes songs and Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe songs onto one album. The song is "I Would Have Waited Forever". Basically everyone on the Union album is getting into the Hall.
01:30:00 Murray reads some of the rules of progressive metal, then we get into plugs. Kyle is trying to get verified on Twitter and join the exclusive club alongside Pat, Murray, April, and Christy. Let's hope that the Twitter people are not big Daft Punk fans. Pat takes us out with Journey and the biggest song in the universe, "Don't Stop Believin'" off of Escape.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:05:00 Diamonds & Rust Diamonds & Rust Joan Baez Pat
00:05:00 The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down Blessed Are… Joan Baez Pat
00:05:00 Forever Young Classics Joan Baez Pat
00:15:00 The Diary of Horace Wind Discovery Electric Light Orchestra Murray
00:15:00 Poker Face the Music Electric Light Orchestra Pat
00:15:00 Rock ’n’ Roll Is King Secret Messages Electric Light Orchestra Murray
00:15:00 Boy Blue Eldorado Electric Light Orchestra Pat
00:20:00 Tightrope A New World Record Electric Light Orchestra Pat
00:20:00 All Over the World All Over the World Electric Light Orchestra Murray
00:30:00 Anytime Infinity Journey Pat
00:30:00 Lovin’, Touchin’, Squeezin’ Evolution Journey Murray
00:35:00 Only Solutions Tron Soundtrack Journey Pat
00:35:00 Send Her My Love Frontiers Journey Murray
00:35:00 Edge of the Blade Frontiers Journey Pat
00:40:00 If You Need Me, Call Me Greatest Hits + Five Unreleased Steve Perry Pat
00:45:00 Wishlist Yield Pearl Jam Murray
00:45:00 The Fixer Backspacer Pearl Jam Pat
00:50:00 Rearviewmirror Vs. Pearl Jam Murray
00:50:00 Mind Your Manners Lightning Bolt Pearl Jam Pat
00:50:00 Better Man Vitalogy Pearl Jam Pat
00:55:00 Get Lucky Random Access Memories Daft Punk Murray
00:55:00 Come Back Fireball Zone Ric Ocasek Pat
01:00:00 Upside Down Diana Diana Ross Murray
01:00:00 Skin Trade Notorious Duran Duran Pat
01:00:00 Original Sin The Swing INXS Pat
01:05:00 California Love All Eyez on Me 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre Murray
01:05:00 Changes Greatest Hits 2Pac Pat
01:10:00 Wanted Dead or Alive The Prophet: The Best of the Works 2Pac feat. Snoop Dogg Murray
01:15:00 Love Will Find a Way Big Generator Yes Murray
01:20:00 Yours Is No Disgrace The Yes Album Yes Pat
01:20:00 It Can Happen 90125 Yes Murray
01:25:00 I’ve Seen All Good People The Yes Album Yes Pat
01:25:00 I Would Have Waited Forever Union Yes Pat
01:30:00 Don’t Stop Believin’ Escape Journey Pat

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