Friday, August 12, 2016

Episode 265: Sequels



Episode 265: Sequels
Pat and Kyle discuss that rare occurrence in recorded music... sequel albums and some sequel songs too. They also do lots of math and drift off course into many tangent topics.
From August 11, 2016

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

Kyle Dodson


00:00:00 Pat and Kyle welcome us to the show. The Dodson Boys, back at it again. Today the gruesome twosome will be discussing SEQUELS! These are sequel albums that artists do to compliment previously successful albums. BUT FOIST!

Steven Tyler has a new country solo album out called We're All Somebody from Somewhere. Pat plays the title track "We're All Somebody from Somewhere". Doesn't sound bad, but Pat reveals that he edited something out of the song. He plays the unedited version and Tyler--in the middle of the song--stops to say this:

Pat then plays the lead single "Red, White & You" and AGAIN, the lyrics take a sharp left turn because he sings about falling into a woman's "Yum-Yum." *shudder*
00:05:00 All in all, according to Pat, the album isn't terrible. More listenable than the previous Aerosmith album. Kyle has a NMR of his own. His friend Nick Miller has a new album out on Bandcamp called No, Hard Feelings. Kyle plays the song "Losing My Hair". Some enjoyable acoustic guitar. Then again, he's not falling into Yum-Yum, so points off for Mr. Miller. Kyle plays another track, "Just Like Before". Pat and Kyle give it the Rock Solid stamp of approval.
00:10:00 Alright, time for sequels. Albums and a few songs mixed in there too. The reason Pat chose this topic is because he picked up ABC's recent release The Lexicon of Love II, a sequel to their big album The Lexicon of Love. April's been bugging Pat to get into ABC, so Pat got the album and he really likes it. Pat plays "Poison Arrow" off the original. He then plays a deeper track called "Valentine's Day".
00:15:00 34 years later, here comes the sequel The Lexicon of Love II. Pat plays "Viva Love". It really captures the essence of LOL I, as Pat notes. Another song from LOL II is played, "Ten Below Zero". Is Pat gonna get every single ABC album now? Yup. Did he also recently get every Byrds and Kansas album? YUUUUUUUUUP.
The next artist on the docket: Harry Chapin. Pat plays his big hit "Taxi" off the album Heads & Tales. The timeless tale of cabbie Harry and his fare Sue, his former love. She's now a famous actress, he's a failed pilot, they're both miserable. You get the picture.
00:20:00 In 1980, Chapin released a song called "Sequel" off the album Sequel. Indeed, it's a sequel to "Taxi." Except now.... IN A SHOCKING TWIST... Harry the cabbie is now a successful musician. He's a high roller, wheelin' and dealin', and he's looking for Sue. But what happened to Sue? We'll check back in later, folks. Gotta keep you on the hook somehow.
Kyle brought some music of his own. Metallica has an album called Load. Kyle plays the single "Until It Sleeps".
00:25:00 The next year, the band release Reload. Kyle plays the opening track, "Fuel". The Black Album sold 16 million (!), then Load & Reload combined sold 9 million. But it was after a 5-year hiatus, so good for Metallica for managing to sustain a good foothold. Pat has some caveats for sequel albums: If two albums come out on the same day, it doesn't count (Use Your Illusion I & II; Human Touch & Lucky Town). If the albums are self-titled, it doesn't count (Led Zeppelin I, II, III, & IV; Van Halen I & II).
Next up for Pat is Alice Cooper. Off the album Welcome to My Nightmare, he plays the title track "Welcome to My Nightmare".
00:30:00 A sequel is eventually released called Welcome 2 My Nightmare. Pat plays "I'll Bite Your Face Off". He follows this up with another song, "Under the Bed".
00:35:00 For this next one, Pat decides--in his infinite wisdom--that the band wanted an album to be a sequel. First up, Escape by Journey. Pat plays "Keep on Runnin'". 30 years later, out comes Eclispse. Why does Pat consider it a sequel? Because both albums have the same spelling format, with the numbers replacing some letters. Inspector Francis' ingenious deductive reasoning is what led to this conclusion. Pat plays "Anything Is Possible". Pat considers Eclipse an unlistenable album. The songs are too long and Arnel Pineda has some vocal effect on him.
00:40:00 Back to Kyle and his musical stylings. He has his own sneaky sequel (a sneaquel, if you will). It's David Bowie. First, we hear "Beauty and the Beast" from the album "Heroes". And then in 2012 we get an album with the same album cover (just with a white square over the center) called The Next Day. Kyle plays "If You Can See Me". Pat prefers The Next Day to "Heroes" because the latter has too many instrumentals for his liking.
00:45:00 Let's check back in with good ol' Harry and Sue. Harry has found Sue. She's older and has fallen from fame. Living in a rundown apartment. We'll check back in later on these two lovebirds because we're got some goddamn Queensrÿche to play. Queensrÿche, people! Pat plays "I Don't Believe in Love" off the album Operation: Mindcrime. Pat likes the song, but he isn't a big fan of Queensrÿche or it's (now former) lead singer Geoff Tate (not THAT Geoff Tate) because of how he looks. Kyle describes him as a white actor in Hollywood cast to play an Ancient Egyptian in a movie and that is PERFECT!
00:50:00 The band decides to release a sequel, appropriately titled Operation: Mindcrime II. Pat plays "I'm American" and then follows this up with "Rearrange You". Mindcrime II didn't light the world on fire as much as its predecessor did, but it still managed to hit 14 on the Billboard 100. Good on you, King Tateankamen.
Let's shake things up. Pat plays "I'm Alright" by Kenny Loggins from the soundtrack to Caddyshack.
00:55:00 Eight years later..... *sigh*.... Caddyshack II. No Rodney. No Murray. Chevy Chase makes a cameo. Jackie Mason, god love him, is no Rodney Dangerfield. BUT the one shining beacon of light in this harbor of miserable shit is Kenny Loggins returning with "Nobody's Fool". Another sneaquel there, courtesy of Mr. Loggins.
01:00:00 Kyle's next artist makes a few sequels of his own, both in music and movies. Off the album Hellbilly Deluxe, it's Rob Zombie with "Dragula". Then we have Hellbilly Deluxe 2 ten years later. Kyle plays "Werewolf Women of the SS". The song is based on the fake trailer of the same name that Zombie made for Grindhouse.
01:05:00 We get another update on Harry and Sue. Harry is successful and on the radio. Sue isn't acting anymore, but she's happy. She's finally and truly happy. Pat and Kyle are convinced that she's lying. Anyway, Pat's next band is Jethro Tull. Decades ago they released Thick as a Brick, one 40 minute long song that was split into two parts, side A and side B (the band's own parody of a concept album because they didn't like being labeled prog rockers). Pat plays a snippet of "Thick as a Brick". Forty years later, lead singer Ian Anderson releases Thick as a Brick 2.
"Thin as a Pin"
- Kyle's suggested subtitle for Thick as a Brick 2

Pat plays "Swing It Far".
01:10:00 Pat and Kyle are creeped out by the lyrics, then listen to another song off the album called "Old School Song". Still creeped out, but the music sounds good. Can't hate on Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull, not on my watch dammit.
We go from Ian to Elton, as Pat plays Elton John. The original album is Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy. He plays "Someone Saved My Life Tonight". We then hear the title track, "Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy". The album is an autobiographical tale of Elton and Bernie Taupin.
01:15:00 31 years later, The Captain & the Kid is a chronicle of Elton and Bernie's lives since the first Captain Fantastic came out. Pat plays "The Captain & the Kid".
Kyle's next band is System of a Down and they released two albums six months apart. The first is Mesmerize and Kyle plays the song "Sad Statue". The second, Hypnotize, features the song "Lonely Day". The albums are more companion-y than direct sequels, but we'll allow it.
01:20:00 Kyle makes the mistake of bringing up Serj Tankian, the lead singer of System of a Down, which makes Pat reference (and impersonate) Serge from Beverly Hills Cop. And then we hear a clip of it.

Pat laments the disaster that was Beverly Hills III.
01:25:00 More Harry and Sue for your curious pleasure. Harry is being quite hush-hush about making love to Sue; he won't tell us who cried afterwards (probably him). Does he always cry during sex? Does he have E.D.? And then Harry leaves money for Sue. The story is almost over, stay tuned for the thrilling conclusion. In the meantime, Pat switches things up and talks about LIVE SEQUEL ALBUMS. The Kiss Alive series comes to mind. Pat brings up Peter Frampton and his massive, MASSIVE live album Frampton Comes Alive!!. He plays "Show Me the Way".
01:30:00 Frampton Comes Alive! II comes out 19 years later. Pat plays "Lying".
Another classic live album is Hot August Night by Neil Diamond. Pat plays "Kentucky Woman". After fifteen years of rockin', Neil puts out Hot August Night II. Pat plays "Cracklin' Rosie". "Cracklin' Voicey," notes Kyle.
01:35:00 Another band from Kyle, this one known as Stone Sour, the other band that Corey Taylor from Slipknot sings in. Kyle plays "Absolute Zero" off the album House of Gold & Bones - Part 1. He follows it up with "Do Me a Favor" from House of Gold & Bones - Part 2. Kyle brings up Larry King's interview with Corey Taylor. Larry could not comprehend how Corey could be in two bands at once.
01:40:00 Pat's got another sneaquel for us. Off of A Night at the Opera, it's Queen with "Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to...)". And then we hear "Tie Your Mother Down" off of A Day at the Races. Similar titles, similar album covers. Pat's just sneaking this one in under the wire. Kyle looks up what the song "Death on Two Legs" is about: Queen's former manager.
01:45:00 Back to the regular sequels now, Pat plays "Steppin' Out" by Joe Jackson off the album Night and Day. Pat then plays the final track on the album, "A Slow Song". In 2000, Jackson releases Night and Day II. Pat plays "Stranger Than You".
01:50:00 Pat has saved the biggest and best (?) for last. "The juggernaut of sequel albums," as Pat describes it. This. Is. Meat Loaf!!!!! We begin with Bat Out of Hell. Pat plays the title track "Bat Out of Hell". "This album is 7 songs," starts Pat. "1000 minutes," continues Kyle. The whole thing is just a cavalcade of musicians all brought together to make one big showstopper of an album. Jump ahead 16 years to 1993. Meat Loaf needs a hit. He needs a win.
01:55:00 BAM! Here comes Bat Out of Hell II: Back Into Hell. Pat plays "Everything Louder Than Everything Else". Against all odds, Meat Loaf sells over 14 million albums... in 1993! Another 13 years later: Bat Out of Hell III: The Monster Is Loose. Pat plays the song "Alive".
02:00:00 Overall, it's a pretty solid trilogy. Meat Loaf has a new album coming out soon and Pat and Jimmy Pardo plan on doing a Meat Loaf episode. Stay tuned for that piece of business. Pat doles out the usual plugs. The new website is coming soon.
We end with Harry, Sue, and things that might have been. See you next time, everybody.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:00:00 We’re All Somebody from Somewhere We’re All Somebody from Somewhere Steven Tyler Pat (New Music Roundup)
00:00:00 Red, White & You We’re All Somebody from Somewhere Steven Tyler Pat (New Music Roundup)
00:05:00 Losing My Hair No, Hard Feelings Nick Miller Kyle (New Music Roundup)
00:05:00 Just Like Before No, Hard Feelings Nick Miller Kyle (New Music Roundup)
00:10:00 Poison Arrow The Lexicon of Love ABC Pat
00:10:00 Valentine’s Day The Lexicon of Love ABC Pat
00:15:00 Viva Love The Lexicon of Love II ABC Pat
00:15:00 Ten Below Zero The Lexicon of Love II ABC Pat
00:15:00 Taxi Heads & Tales Harry Chapin Pat
00:20:00 Sequel Sequel Harry Chapin Pat
00:20:00 Until It Sleeps Load Metallica Kyle
00:25:00 Fuel Reload Metallica Kyle
00:25:00 Welcome to My Nightmare Welcome to My Nightmare Alice Cooper Pat
00:30:00 I’ll Bite Your Face Off Welcome 2 My Nightmare Alice Cooper Pat
00:30:00 Under the Bed Welcome 2 My Nightmare Alice Cooper Pat
00:35:00 Keep on Runnin’ Escape Journey Pat
00:35:00 Anything Is Possible Eclipse Journey Pat
00:40:00 Beauty and the Beast The Next Day David Bowie Kyle
00:40:00 If You Can See Me The Next Day David Bowie Kyle
00:45:00 I Don’t Believe in Love Operation: Mindcrime Queensrÿche Pat
00:50:00 I’m American Operation: Mindcrime II Queensrÿche Pat
00:50:00 Rearrange You Operation: Mindcrime II Queensrÿche Pat
00:50:00 I’m Alright Caddyshack Soundtrack Kenny Loggins Pat
00:55:00 Nobody’s Fool Caddyshack II Soundtrack Kenny Loggins Pat
01:00:00 Dragula Hellbilly Deluxe Rob Zombie Kyle
01:00:00 Werewolf Women of the SS Hellbilly Deluxe 2 Rob Zombie Kyle
01:05:00 Thick as a Brick Thick as a Brick Jethro Tull Pat
01:05:00 Swing It Far Thick as a Brick 2 Ian Anderson Pat
01:10:00 Old School Song Thick as a Brick 2 Ian Anderson Pat
01:10:00 Someone Saved My Life Tonight Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy Elton John Pat
01:10:00 Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy Elton John Pat
01:15:00 The Captain & the Kid The Captain & the Kid Elton John Pat
01:15:00 Sad Statue Mesmerize System of a Down Kyle
01:15:00 Lonely Day Hypnotize System of a Down Kyle
01:25:00 Show Me the Way (Live) Frampton Comes Alive! Peter Frampton Pat
01:30:00 Lying (Live) Frampton Comes Alive! II Peter Frampton Pat
01:30:00 Kentucky Woman (Live) Hot August Night Neil Diamond Pat
01:30:00 Cracklin’ Rosie (Live) Hot August Night II Neil Diamond Pat
01:35:00 Absolute Zero House of Gold & Bones - Part 1 Stone Sour Kyle
01:35:00 Do Me a Favor House of Gold & Bones - Part 2 Stone Sour Kyle
01:40:00 Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to…) A Night at the Opera Queen Pat
01:40:00 Tie Your Mother Down A Day at the Races Queen Pat
01:45:00 Steppin’ Out Night and Day Joe Jackson Pat
01:45:00 A Slow Song Night and Day Joe Jackson Pat
01:45:00 Stranger Than You Night and Day II Joe Jackson Pat
01:50:00 Bat Out of Hell Bat Out of Hell Meat Loaf Pat
01:55:00 Everything Louder Than Everything Else Bat Out of Hell II: Back Into Hell Meat Loaf Pat
01:55:00 Alive Bat Out of Hell III: The Monster Is Loose Meat Loaf Pat

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