Friday, June 24, 2016

Episode 258: Party Of One

Episode 258: Party Of One
Pat and Kyle are joined by Humorist Dave Holmes to discuss his upcoming memoir "Party Of One."
From June 23, 2016

With your host:

Pat Francis

00:00:00 Pat and Kyle welcome us to the show. It's another week here on Rock Solid and it's another guest filling in as a co-host. Please welcome the very funny, very talented Dave Holmes! Dave has a new book coming out called Party of One, available in hard copy, Kindle, and audiobook, narrated by Dave himself. He recorded it in his home studio over the course of a few weeks. Of course he was beholden to all sorts of outsides noises: airplanes, barking dogs, the laughter of a precocious child on a summer's day. Nuisances, all of them. Pat heaps praise upon Dave's new book, he loves it!
00:05:00 Pat and Dave were supposed to record on Sunday, the 12th. But then the Orlando massacre happened. Pat's daughter and her friends had plans to go to the LA Pride parade, but those plans were ultimately nixed. Dave worries that he's become too numb to these kinds of tragic events. So say we all.
00:10:00 Dave writes for Esquire. As a gay man, he felt that he needed to write something about Orlando. He also went to the parade. People were having fun, but it was a little more somber. On the East Side, people were taking up collections. It's a scary thing for Pat and Dave that some guy can just get an assault rifle and mow down a huge group of people. Dave says it's odd that the shooting happened during his "gayest summer ever." He's entered a stage where he's much more comfortable with his homosexuality, so he's going out and just painting the town rainbow. He's telling his story and being as open with his gayness as possible. "Everyone should have their gayest summer ever," posits Dave.
00:15:00 Dave talks about his "second wind" as a gay guy. He feels like he's an adolescent again with this renewed energy. He also hopes that the gay community can rebuild and be stronger than ever. Pat decided to write letters to his senators. And he wants the high profile celebrity people to actually use their fan base to help, rather than just offering "thoughts and prayers."
00:20:00 Serious business to start the pod, but it's all related to Dave and his life. Going back to Party of One, the subtitle of the book is "A Memoir in 21 Songs" and each chapter starts with a song title. We're gonna see how many songs we hear. The first one is "Go Your Own Way" by Fleetwood Mac, from the album Rumours. Sometimes the chapters are about the songs, sometimes the titles just illuminate the themes. "Go Your Own Way" is about Dave growing up as a kid--small town, sports, Catholic family--with a strong interest in pop culture and the seed of knowledge that he preferred the company of boys rather than girls.
00:25:00 Pat likes how his daughters are more concerned with the issues of the day than he was when he was a kid. Perhaps it's time and place, perhaps it's social media. Kids these days with their Friendster and their Google Plus. Dave is excited about people reading the book. He just can't believe that this is all happening. It took him about a year to write it. Dave credits going away from his boyfriend and dog for a couple times and just doing nothing but writing. Change your surroundings, be around strangers, and you will be inspired. Oh, and the panic helps too. The crippling, dreadful PANIC of an editor's deadline.
00:30:00 Chapter Two: "Hungry Heart" by Bruce Springsteen off the album The River. The River was Pat's introduction to Bruce. "Do you have any brothers?" asks Dave. Oh yes. Pat tells Dave all about Kirk Dodson and his musical tastes: Perry Como, Andy Williams, etc. He is an old soul, that Good Brother Kirk. Dave asks because the chapter is about how Dave would listen to his older brothers' albums and get into music through them. They revered Springsteen.
We turn the page to Chapter Three, "Let's Go Crazy" by Prince. Dave fears that he was the one who called the demise of Prince because he was at a David Bowie dance party (hosted by our own April Richardson) and he mused that some day Prince will die.
00:35:00 Just weeks later, there was a Prince dance party. "Let's Go Crazy" is about Dave's experiences in junior high school.
"You went to an all boys school."
- Pat

"I did."
- Dave

"That's like a candy store."
- Pat

It was an all boys Catholic school with everyone dressed in a suit and tie. That said, Angus Young does NOTHING to stir Dave's loins. Pat tells a story about a school friend who had a very pretty girlfriend (and later wife). He also liked to wear purple robes and give himself facials. Very fashionable. Years later, the friend wrote to Pat that he was gay and getting a divorce. But Pat didn't think a thing of it back in school. He had no idea! Dave agrees, it was the 80s. You could get away with anything! Boy George, George Michael. Even Prince. Nobody said anything.
00:40:00 Speaking of George Michael, we move on to Chapter Four, "The Edge of Heaven" by Wham! from the album Music from the Edge of Heaven. The summer of '86, right in the middle of high school.
Here comes Chapter Five, "Drifting Falling" by The Ocean Blue from their self-titled album. This chapter is about Dave's disastrous college experience. Dave knew what he wanted to be, what he wanted to do, but he still felt the urge to be a "normal guy" with a "normal job." He wanted to write and create, but he had no direction or wisdom towards that. In regards to being the good student, Dave admits he "Max Fischer'd" it and then crashed and burned. Pat agrees, he just wasn't made for it.
00:45:00 Chapter Six is "Everybody Loves Me but You" by Brenda Lee. Dave's first boyfriend: Another misstep. Dave appreciates these missteps in his life because they gave him material for the book. Have his parents read the book? Yes they have. They were fine with it, although they were a little worried about what the neighbors would think of the sex and drugs (of which there are actually very few stories in the book). Dave talked it out with them and it was very cathartic.
00:50:00 Dave talks a bit about his family and their acceptance of his homosexuality. Times are certainly changing. We inject a bit of girl power into the mix with Chapter Seven: "Free Your Mind" by En Vogue off the album Funky Divas. Pat got to see En Vogue perform as part of a show he's working on and they sound great.
00:55:00 "Free Your Mind" is around the time when Dave comes out as gay. His goal was to write a humorous book, even though there are some sad stories in it. Pat wonders what Dave refers to himself as? An actor? Writer? Comic? Dave himself doesn't know because he does a lot of things. Right now he calls himself a writer and comic. Pat suggests "humorist."
Pat jumps ahead to Chapter Twelve: "Wannabe" by Spice Girls off the album Spice.
01:00:00 Pat loved MTV so much. He lists off the various VJs like Kevin Seal and Adam Curry. Pat and Dave lament the loss of MTV as the hub for music news and music videos. Dave recalls when the turn was made to have shows that had a beginning, middle, and end, shows which could generate ratings.
01:05:00 In 1998, MTV put out the call for new VJs. Dave felt like this was his chance to break out. Wanna Be a VJ was the name of the show. He got in line early because he knew the MTV people would get sick of faces after a little while. At the very least, he wanted to be at MTV. He did not win the competition, but he ultimately ended up as a "winner."
"You were like Clay Aiken in this whole thing."
- Pat

"In so many ways."
- Dave, with the line of the episode
01:10:00 Although he lost, Dave kept at it. He got a writing job and these shows got picked up and he was at MTV for a while. The man who did win was Jesse Camp. EVERYONE asks Dave about Jesse Camp. How does one describe Jesse? He looked like a laid-back pseudo-punk rocker, was a bit spaced-out, but Dave says he was a very nice kid. Jesse did not last that long. Dave, meanwhile, did all kinds of stuff at MTV, including on-air stuff like MTV Spring Break. A bunch of drunk college kids on a beach in Cancun with TV cameras around them? Boy, what fun!
01:15:00 Dave expected a party. And the party was there, but so was work. And belligerent teenagers with whistles. A story in Dave's book relates about one particular go-getter of a girl who decided to "go the extra mile" in a couples dance contest. With her mouth. Think about it. My goodness. Pat turns the page to Chapter Fifteen: "Unpretty" by TLC off the album FanMail. Dave has some stories about Mark Wahlberg, Kid Rock, Tara Reid, Puff Daddy. He didn't want to write a tell-all, but he's got stories.
01:20:00 Dave was at MTV for four years. He understood that he had a shelf life at MTV, so he decided to leave on his own terms and live in LA. Up next is Chapter Seventeen, "Any Little Town" by The Push Stars off the album After the Party. Dave was in New York during September 11. He slept through it. Dave had come home real early in the morning and just slept. Then he woke up in the afternoon and beheld what happened.
01:25:00 From the apartment, he and his roommates had a view. Dave describes it as "a dome of dust and smoke." It was all quite jarring. In the aftermath, they just roamed the city and took it all in. Pat skips ahead a few more chapters and lands on Chapter Twenty: "Losing My Edge" by LCD Soundsystem off their self-titled album.
01:30:00 "Losing My Edge" is about Dave's realization that he had lost touch with the current dealings of music. The Strokes--the whole band--walked by him and he didn't know who they were. Pat lets his daughter Sara play some of her music in the car and it's all a bunch of bands he's never heard of. He calls it refreshing. The show that Pat is working on is Greatest Hits on ABC, where classic and contemporary artists team up to sing hit songs. Dave credits The Hold Steady for keeping him current.
01:35:00 Some friendly plugs: You can find him on Twitter @DaveHolmes. Dave's book Party of One: A Memoir in 21 Songs is available everywhere on JUNE 28 for your reading pleasure. There is also a special website for the book at
Thank you very much to Dave Holmes for being here. Funny man, smart man, kind man, author man. Pat takes us out with a very special song. In the aftermath of the Orlando shooting, former guest Melissa Etheridge wrote and released a song called "Pulse" as a tribute to the victims. The proceeds of the song are being donated to Equality Florida. Pat plays the song in its entirety to close the show.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:20:00 Go Your Own Way Rumours Fleetwood Mac Pat
00:30:00 Hungry Heart The River Bruce Springsteen Pat
00:40:00 The Edge of Heaven Music from the Edge of Heaven Wham! Pat
00:40:00 Drifting Falling The Ocean Blue The Ocean Blue Pat
00:50:00 Free Your Mind Funky Divas En Vogue Pat
00:55:00 Wannabe Spice Spice Girls Pat
01:15:00 Unpretty FanMail TLC Pat
01:20:00 Any Little Town After the Party The Push Stars Pat
01:25:00 Losing My Edge LCD Soundsystem LCD Soundsystem Pat
01:35:00 Pulse Single Melissa Etheridge Pat

Friday, June 17, 2016

Episode 257: Songs About Girls

Episode 257: Songs About Girls
Pat and April play their favorite songs which feature girls' names in the title. It's just that simple and fun too!
From June 16, 2016

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

April Richardson

00:00:00 Pat, April, and Kyle welcome us to the show. The gang start off this episode with some TV talk. April has rarely seen an episode of Friends (!) or Seinfeld (!!!). What were her shows? Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Melrose Place, 90210 (the original). April has also never watched Breaking Bad. She's seen a couple of scenes, but they were too gruesome for her. She can't handle the violence. And forget Game of Thrones because wizardry and "renaissance fair" shenanigans are not in her wheelhouse. Does she like any fantasy? Not really.
00:05:00 Pat and April aren't into the fiction books. April, much like Johnny Five, needs input; real people, real facts. More TV talk: Pat and April both agree that Veep and Silicon Valley are great shows with funny people on it. But enough about the boob tube, let's get into music. Pat suggested some possible topics to April, one of them being an all Garth Brooks episode. But April doesn't want to be blamed for all of the listeners unsubscribing from the podcast at once.
00:10:00 Pat is the only person in April's social circle who also likes Garth Brooks. Kyle mistakenly brings up Chris Gaines.
"Don't bring up Chris Gaines. That never happened. I Eternal Sunshine'd Chris Gaines out of my head."
- April

"Would you do an only Chris Gaines episode?"
- Kyle

"He didn't exist. I don't know what you're talking about."
- April

What is April's favorite TV show ever? Mr. Show. She got to go to a taping for the revival With Bob and David. Then the conversation turns to Love on Netflix. April doesn't like when a TV show has no likable character. And not likable like "smiles and rainbows," likable as in "this person is tolerable to hang out with." TV Solid strikes again, urgh! Damn you new golden age of television. Damn you!!!
Alright! Now let's get into the music. Today's topic is round two of a topic that was done ALLLLLLLLL the way back near the beginning of the podcast. It's songs with girl names in the title. Pat decided to take the extreme route and pick songs with ONLY the girl's name in the title. No "Ruby Tuesday" or "Proud Mary."
00:15:00 Pat starts us off with Marshall Crenshaw. Off the album Good Evening, the song is "Valerie".
April's first pick is from Pulp head honcho Jarvis Cocker. Off the album Further Complications, it's "Angela".
What do you call a female Ramone? Simple: "Ramona" by Ramones from the album Rocket to Russia.
Speaking of Ramones, April's next pick name checks Joey Ramone. Off the album It's My Club and I'll Play Want I Want To, it's "Debbie Loves Joey" by Helen Love.
00:20:00 Going right along, Pat's next pick is by Stevie Nicks. This is "Greta" off the album Street Angel. Pat and April both seem to enjoy the songs and albums that do not get love.
April was listening to Prince all day long when he died. Here's an obvious one: "Darling Nikki" off of Purple Rain.
00:25:00 Pat and April discuss the death of Prince. Prince always looked healthy, he was a vegan. April woke up to a text from Dave Holmes and then she didn't want to get out of bed. April saw him four times and they were the best four concerts she'd ever seen in her life. Super talented, prolific. April describes him and Bowie as being for everyone. They were weird, but also acceptable at the same time. Purple Rain was this avenue into a sexual world that April just didn't know about.
00:30:00 We go from Prince to Billy Idol. Off the album Devil's Playground, the song is called "Cherie".
Up next for April are those Seattle grunge gods, Nirvana. It's "Polly" off the album Nevermind. Kyle brings up the documentary "Soaked in Bleach." April thinks it was Courtney who pulled the trigger and sent Kurt to the great gig in the sky. They discuss the science behind it. "Heroin must be great," wonders Pat. April intends to do all the drugs when she's 80 and has no more life left to live. Horse, crank, paint, acid. She'll even toss in one of those Warhead candies and YOU KNOW the damage those can do.
00:35:00 We go from the mumble and bumble of grunge to the peppy steps of The Four Seasons. The song is "Marlena" off the album Golden Hits of the Four Seasons. Pat and Pardo saw Frankie Valli a little while ago and he lip syncs about 95% of the show. And he barely opens his mouth too, it's sad. Kyle surmises that all the old people in the crowd don't even notice.
April goes a similar route and heads old school with her boy Elvis Presley. Off the album ELV1S: 30 #1 Hits, it's "(Marie's the Name) His Latest Flame". April does love Elvis' fondness for girls with black hair. "That always made me feel better as a kid growing up looking like Wednesday Adams."
00:40:00 Pat and April discuss last names. April used her husband's last name when she got married, but when they split, she went right back to Richardson. She intends to keep it as such for the remainder of her days. April has a brand to maintain, after all. The next song for Pat was written about actress Theresa Russell. It was going to be called "Theresa," but when it came time to record, it was changed to "Athena" by The Who from the album It's Hard. Roger Daltrey HATES the song, so it never gets played.
The next song for April is by a band called Larrikin Love. The song is called "Happy as Annie" off the album The Freedom Spark.
00:45:00 April mentioned Dave Holmes earlier. Dave will be on an upcoming episode talking about his new memoir. April calls him her favorite writer. She and Dave hosted a Prince dance party. But what about Rick Springfield? Would a dance party be thrown in HIS honor? Probably by Pat. Pat plays "Kristina" off the album Success Hasn't Spoiled Me Yet.
00:50:00 Kyle brings up an episode of The Eric Andre Show where Rick Springfield is tied to a dolly and screaming for help. Even as the band is playing a song, Rick is just screaming for someone to help him. April and Kyle bond over their love for Eric Andre and his insane antics. April then plays "The Best of Jill Hives" by Guided by Voices off the album Earthquake Glue.
Out of all of Pat's songs today, this is his favorite on the list. Off the album In Dreams: The Greatest Hits, it's "Claudette" by Roy Orbison. Pat is baffled that his wife Pilar loves Chris Isaak, but she doesn't like Roy Orbison. "Because she doesn't want to bang Roy Orbison," answers April. Well then.
00:55:00 April was going to play "Amy" by Elton John, but since she already played it on the Sir Elton episode, she goes with "Sheila, Take a Bow" by The Smiths off the album Louder Than Bombs. Is April's love for Morrissey unconditional? No, she keeps her fandom in check. Not everything he does is great.
Pat follows up The Smiths with the appropriate song "Sheila" by Aerosmith off the album Done with Mirrors.
01:00:00 And then April goes with Morrissey solo with "When Last I Spoke to Carol" from the album Years of Refusal. April would rather have no new Morrissey album than a bad Morrissey album. She was having dinner with Tony Visconti (hold on, let me pick that name up off the floor) and admitted that she would rather have Morrissey retire than go out there at 75 and try to be the dandy fop that he is. She doesn't think this way for every artist, but for some, there is no shame in stopping. Don't get lamed out.
01:05:00 April thought about Morrissey retiring and just being a writer, but then she read his fiction novel and.... hoo boy. It's about a relay team that accidentally kills a demon, and then the demon haunts them. The book takes place in Boston in the 1970s, yet every character talks like Morrissey: A sad Englishman concerned about Margaret Thatcher. She really liked his autobiography, but Morrissey should stay away from fiction.
Pat takes us away from Morrissey and towards the Irish rock of Thin Lizzy. Off the album Fighting, it's "Rosalie".
April unintentionally sounds like Owen Wilson when introducing her next song. It's "Planet Claire" by The B-52's off their self-titled album.
01:10:00 Pat and April discuss The B-52's and their big hits. Pat spills the beans that Chris Isaak might be coming on the show. "Who gets to be the co-host on that show, April Richardson?" asks April, totally nonchalant. Pat also suggests that ABC's Martin Fry might be on the show too, perhaps, maybe. He brings up the new ABC album The Lexicon of Love II, a sequel album to the original.
01:15:00 Pat often gets Fry mixed up with Bryan Ferry. Suave Englishmen in suits, they all look alike. But he would certainly not confuse Fry with anyone in April's next pick, The Cure. She plays "Charlotte Sometimes" from the album Standing on a Beach.
Pat's mom/Kyle's grandma's name is "Lucinda". Pat plays a song of the same name by Jesse Malin off the album Glitter in the Gutter.
01:20:00 The next song for April is by The Bluetones. Off the album Science & Nature, the song is called "Emily's Pine".
No signs of stopping as Pat's next pick is by friend of the show Heather Stewart. The song is "Evelyn" off the album What It Is. Pat had no idea Heather could sing so well, she was always just his friend Heather.
April doesn't mean to bragg (HA HA!! See what I did there? Come on people, let's hear it for the ladies), but her next pick is by her friend Billy Bragg. Off the album England, Half-English, the song is "Another Kind of Judy".
01:25:00 On the way to the show, April was listening to music. What kind of music?
"It was a mix I made for somebody and I was testing it out to make sure it was rad before I gave it to him."
- An actual sentence said by an adult woman in 2016

April burns mixes and plays it in her car to make sure it flows well. And if it's not rad enough, it's back to the edit bay. "You're nuts," utters Pat. Oh, he's kidding. That actually is a smart thing to do, in my opinion. At the very least to make sure the CD doesn't skip.
Pat gives apologies to Blondie, The Monkees, Elvis Costello, and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. His last pick is "Rosie" by Peter Wolf off the album Long Line.
01:30:00 Pat goes through the usual plugs. If you want to catch April on Facebook, she has a fan page RIGHT HERE. Her private page and the goings-on on it are none of your business, thank you very much. April gets overwhelmed with social media sometimes. There are some not-so-nice people out there.
Let's not dwell on that, let's end with some music. April takes us out with "Louise" by The Human League off the album Hysteria.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:15:00 Valerie Good Evening Marshall Crenshaw Pat
00:15:00 Angela Further Complications Jarvis Cocker April
00:15:00 Ramona Rocket to Russia Ramones Pat
00:15:00 Debbie Loves Joey It’s My Club and I’ll Play What I Want To Helen Love April
00:20:00 Greta Street Angel Stevie Nicks Pat
00:20:00 Darling Nikki Purple Rain Prince April
00:30:00 Cherie Devil’s Playground Billy Idol Pat
00:30:00 Polly Nevermind Nirvana April
00:35:00 Marlena Golden Hits of the Four Seasons The Four Seasons Pat
00:35:00 (Marie’s the Name) His Latest Flame ELV1S: 30 #1 Hits Elvis Presley April
00:40:00 Athena It’s Hard The Who Pat
00:40:00 Happy as Annie The Freedom Spark Larrikin Love April
00:45:00 Kristina Success Hasn’t Spoiled Me Yet Rick Springfield Pat
00:50:00 The Best of Jill Hives Earthquake Glue Guided by Voices April
00:50:00 Claudette In Dreams: The Greatest Hits Roy Orbison Pat
00:55:00 Sheila Take a Bow Louder Than Bombs The Smiths April
00:55:00 Shela Done with Mirrors Aerosmith Pat
01:00:00 When Last I Spoke to Carol Years of Refusal Morrissey April
01:05:00 Rosalie Fighting Thin Lizzy Pat
01:05:00 Planet Claire The B-52’s The B-52’s April
01:15:00 Charlotte Sometimes Standing on a Beach The Cure April
01:15:00 Lucinda Glitter in the Gutter Jesse Malin Pat
01:20:00 Emily’s Pine Science & Nature The Bluetones April
01:20:00 Evelyn What It Is Heather Stewart Pat
01:20:00 Another Kind of Judy England, Half-English Billy Bragg April
01:25:00 Rosie Long Line Peter Wolf Pat
01:30:00 Louise Hysteria The Human League April

Friday, June 10, 2016

Episode 256: Shuffle, Repeat

Episode 256: Shuffle, Refeat
Pat and Kyle are joined by author and television writer Jen Klein to discuss her new YA novel "Shuffle, Repeat."
From June 9, 2016

With your host:

Pat Francis

00:00:00 Pat and Kyle welcome us to the show. This week features a special guest by the name of Jen Klein. She is a writer of both young adult novels AND she is a staff writer on a little show called Grey's Anatomy. Pat and Jen became friends when their kids went to the same preschool. Jen has also written a lot for animated shows like Bratz, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Astroblast!, ToddWorld, and others.
00:05:00 Jen's first YA book Jillian Cade, (Fake) Paranormal Investigator was released last year and this year, she is releasing her second YA book Shuffle, Repeat, which is why Jen is here on Rock Solid. Someone else who is close to being on Rock Solid is Rick Springfield, whom Pat has wanted to get in here since forever.
00:10:00 Before we delve into Jen's new book and related music and such, it's time for Jen to be introduced to

Here's the deal: Pat sometimes writes reviews for Pop Culture Beast and he'll get CDs from bands that he's never heard of. So we're gonna hear some songs with completely fresh ears. Today's album is Allies by Jamie Kime, who is part of Dweezil Zappa's Zappa Plays Zappa band.
  • "Pelt" -- It's an instrumental track. And based on Jen's sleuthing skills, the album cover does not have any vocal credits at all. But Pat and Jen liked the groove. Kyle likens it to elevator music.
  • "Bottlerocket" -- Faster-paced, Kyle playing a little air drum. They liked it better than "Pelt."
  • "Philadelphia" -- A lot slower.
  • "Shinebox" -- Another instrumental, it's fine, no big deal.
Overall the album is suitable instrumental rock. It gets a hearty "ok" from the trio. Pat reiterates, once again, that if you want the album, be the first to email him and YOU NEED TO INCLUDE YOUR FULL ADDRESS.
00:20:00 With all that done, Jen tells us about Shuffle, Repeat. The book is about two high school seniors, June and Oliver, who are forced by their mothers to drive to school together every day. They have different philosophies about everything, including music. They end up playing a game where anytime one of them proves their philosophy is right, they can add a song to their shared playlist that they listen to while driving to school. And maybe, just maybe, they might be falling in love as they do it. Maybe. Pat asks Jen how she plans her book. Jen has a document for each book called "Shit that Happens in No Particular Order." It's exactly how it sounds. Little pieces of scenes and character backstory that are patched together to make the story. The final version of the book is rather close to the original vision.
00:25:00 Jen likes how with a book, you have a lot more ownership over it than a movie or TV script. Pat's daughter Sarah actually read the first drafts of both of Jen's books before they even went to the editor. Jen even wrote a dedication to Sarah in Shuffle, Repeat! Awwwwwwwwww. Pat also has five copies of Jen's new book to give away to the listeners, and they've all been beautifully signed by the author herself!
00:30:00 A word of advice from Jen: If you're signing a book or movie poster or something like that, come up with a new signature that is different than your regular signature, so people can't forge it. She is one smart cookie. In the back of the book is the "Sunrise Songs" playlist, which is the playlist of songs that the main characters in Shuffle, Repeat listen to on the way to school. All the songs on the playlist are real, except for one song.
00:35:00 Pat suggests that (fingers crossed) when the book becomes a movie, the studio will contract a musician to write the song for real. But that's all hypothetical, let's focus on the real songs in the here and now. Pat is going to play the real songs that are on the playlist. The first song on the list is by none other than Air Supply. Off their Greatest Hits, it's "Making Love Out of Nothing at All". It was written by Jim Steinman and it COMPLETELY SOUNDS like a Jim Steinman.
00:40:00 Jen picked it because her sister in college had her answering machine message ask the caller about the meaning of the song. Yup. The next song is "Gone Daddy Gone" by Violent Femmes off their self-titled album. It's one of Jen's favorite Violent Femmes and it's an important song for June. No spoilers here. Who are Jen's favorite artists? She has no idea. On the drive over, she was listening to Prozac, the Hamilton soundtrack, The Beatles. It was more shuffle than repeat.
00:45:00 Up next on the playlist is definitely a Pat Francis song. It's "Here I Go Again" by Whitesnake. There are actually THREE different versions of the song and Pat makes it his mission to play a little bit of all three. Seriously. He mainly plays the original from Saints & Sinners, though. Good heavens, it was like Title Fight: Round 2 all over again. Kyle prefers the rock radio version of '87. Pat can't choose. HE JUST CAN'T DECIDE!
00:50:00 Moving on from Coverdale and the boys, Pat plays the next playlist song. Off the album Blah-Blah-Blah, it's Iggy Pop with "Cry for Love". Kyle asks if there were songs that she wanted in the book that Jen couldn't fit in. No, Jen could do what she wanted. Pat gushes that the future movie version of the book already has a soundtrack. Of course there is only room for one version of "Here I Go Again."
00:55:00 What's Jen's writing schedule like? She just wrote in the mornings before work, the evenings after work, and on the weekends. She wrote the first draft in just a few months, all the while still working on Grey's Anatomy. Hollywood Producer Kyle has some predictions. Demi Lovato stars as June and she records the made-up song as the single for the soundtrack. Hollywood Producer Pat chimes in: Richard Dreyfuss as Oliver. I would have gone with a Yaphet Kotto, but to each his own. Pat gushes over the look of the book. He doesn't know what any of the words mean, but the colors and pictures sure are nice. We return to the music with "(I Just) Died in Your Arms" by Cutting Crew off the album Broadcast.
01:00:00 Pat compliments Jen for being able to write a book in three months because if he tried to do it, there would no time for anything else: eating, sleeping, loving his family. Nothing. Jen admits that she is a fast typer. The next song on the playlist is "Heaven" by Warrant off the album Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich.
Pat plays two punk bands back to back. The first is The Clash with "London Calling" off the album London Calling.
01:05:00 The second is Ramones with "I Wanna Be Sedated" off the album Road to Ruin.
We get another 80s hit with the next song on the playlist. It's "Angel" by Aerosmith off the album Permanent Vacation.
01:10:00 Cruising right along this playlist with a band called Pansy Division. The song is called "Luv Luv Luv" off the album Absurd Pop Song Romance. Pansy Divison is a Queercore punk rock band out of San Francisco. Kyle asks Jen if any of the songs on the playlist are from other people. Some are from her sister.
We've got another Pat Francis Special for you. It's "I'll Be There for You" by Bon Jovi off the album New Jersey.
01:15:00 The next band Pat can barely pronounce. It's Ume with "Chase It Down" off the album Monuments.
Is this a band? Is it a person? Pat wants to know about Alesana. It's a band, says Kyle. And they are right up Kyle's alley being a screamo hardcore metal band. The song is called "This Is Usually the Part Where People Scream" off the album Where Myth Fades to Legend. "That's the kind of bullshit that I like," admits Kyle.
01:20:00 After a brief interruption from Dueling Trumps, Pat plays the next playlist song. Off the album Hysteria, it's "Love Bites" by Def Leppard. In the book, June hates Oliver's music and Oliver despises June's music. Pat somehow brings it back to Richard Dreyfuss in the movie adaption. Somehow his Dreyfuss impression sound like Trump. Good god. The book takes place in Ann Arbor, Michigan where Jen grew up until she was 13.
01:25:00 The next playlist song is Wax Fang with their single "Hearts Are Made for Beating". More Richard Dreyfuss, apparently he meets Susan Sarandon the lunch lady. Don't ask.
Pat used to get driven wild by the album cover of the next song, No Secrets by Carly Simon. Why? Well it's daytime and her brights are on. Pat plays "You're So Vain".
01:30:00 Pat started reading Carly's autobiography in February and he's STILL reading it. He reads, like, a paragraph a week and he forgets what he read. But he doesn't forget the next song, "The Search Is Over" by Survivor off the album Vital Signs.
Jen can be found on Twitter @JenKleinTweets and you can go to her website
01:35:00 For some reason, Pat and Kyle will not let this Richard Dreyfuss thing go. Kyle actually saw Dreyfuss speak once. It was essentially an old man rant. Thanks to Jen for coming on the show, talking about her book, signing some books, and putting up with the usual shenanigans. The last playlist song that Pat plays is "Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)" by Nico Vega off the album Lead to Light.
01:40:00 Some Rock Solid news: Kyle is in the midst of working on a new website for the show! The young gun is tinkering away on the old keyboard. It's gonna be the new home for these recaps and it'll be pretty damn cool. Pat takes us out with the theme song to the podcast, "Song Away" by Hockey off the album Mind Chaos. Thank you again Jen and buy Shuffle, Repeat now people!
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:10:00 Pelt Alleys Jamie Kime Jen (First Listen)
00:10:00 Bottlerocket Alleys Jamie Kime Kyle (First Listen)
00:15:00 Philadelphia Alleys Jamie Kime Pat (First Listen)
00:15:00 Shinebox Alleys Jamie Kime Pat (First Listen)
00:35:00 Making Love Out of Nothing at All Greatest Hits Air Supply Pat
00:40:00 Gone Daddy Gone Violent Femmes Violent Femmes Pat
00:45:00 Here I Go Again Saints & Sinners Whitesnake Pat
00:50:00 Cry for Love Blah-Blah-Blah Iggy Pop Pat
00:55:00 (I Just) Died in Your Arms Broadcast Cutting Crew Pat
01:00:00 Heaven Dirty Rotte Filthy Stinking Rich Warrant Pat
01:00:00 London Calling London Calling The Clash Pat
01:05:00 I Wanna Be Sedated Road to Ruin Ramones Pat
01:05:00 Angel Permanent Vacation Aerosmith Pat
01:10:00 Luv Luv Luv Absurd Pop Song Romance Pansy Division Pat
01:10:00 I’ll Be There for You New Jersey Bon Jovi Pat
01:15:00 Chase It Down Monuments Ume Pat
01:15:00 This Is Usually the Part Where People Scream Where Myth Fades to Legend Alesana Pat
01:20:00 Love Bites Hysteria Def Leppard Pat
01:25:00 Hearts Are Made for Beating Single Wax Fang Pat
01:25:00 You’re So Vain No Secrets Carly Simon Pat
01:30:00 The Search Is Over Vital Signs Survivor Pat
01:35:00 Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down) Lead to Light Nico Vega Pat
01:40:00 Song Away Mind Chaos Hockey Pat