Friday, June 27, 2014

Episode 154: Rock Solid-opedia Vol. I



Episode 154: Rock Solid-opedia Vol. I
This week Pat gets help from the listeners as they pick the songs played on the final installment of Rock Solid-opedia!
From June 26, 2014

With your host:

Pat Francis

00:00:00 Pat welcomes us to the show. Today's episode is a bit different because there is no one in the co-host seat. That's right, Pat's going solo this week. Will he make this episode an eccentric blend of pop music and worldbeat like Peter Gabriel's So, or a rip-em-to-shreds metal masterpiece like Ozzy Osbourne's Blizzard of Ozz? Or will he turn this show into a pile of dog shit like Peter Criss' '78 solo album? Only time will tell.
Of course, Pat isn't entirely alone. Kyle is by his side in the producer's chair. Kyle's younger brother Casey has returned to the show as well. Kyle and Casey went on a little adventure recently and went to an LA Kiss game. For those that don't know, the LA Kiss are an arena football team owned by Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. I guess they ran out of coffins and condoms to smear their logo on, so sports teams are the next logical step. Paul Stanley offered to sign his autobiography for fans who came early. Pat couldn't go, so he gave Kyle his book to take with him to get Paul to sign. There were about 250 people in line. A lot of jerseys. A lot of tattoos. When Kyle and Casey got to the front of the line, Paul was very nice, signed Pat's book, and took a photo with them. If Paul saw the attendance record, he probably wouldn't have been so happy. About 2/3 of the seats were open.
00:05:00 Arena football feels very different than mainstream football. These aren't your star players. Think college football, but take out all hope of being in the NFL. The LA Kiss's opponents were the San Diego Sabrecats. Pat hates that name. It sounds made-up. Bon Jovi owns an arena football called the Philadelphia Soul, which actually makes sense. Pat thinks the LA Kiss should be called the LA Destroyers. It just sounds meaner and cooler. The Sabrecats won the game, by the way.
Much like their uniform design, the LA Kiss's NFL dreams are going up in flames.
The arena setup was interesting, to say the least. There are four women dancing in cages over the end zones. They raise and lower the cages as the game goes on. The cage closest to Kyle and Casey started spinning out of control and the woman inside was panicking. They literally needed to stop the game and get the woman out of the cage. Half-time was equally nuts. BMX bikers came out and did some tricks. The Rock City dancers threw t-shirts to the crowd. They also threw beach balls, but nobody tossed them around because they were signed by the players. (Although I'm not sure how much a beach ball signed by the LA Kiss will go for online. $20? $25?)
So Paul Stanley comes out and he has his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame trophy with him. He says that the RnRHoF hates Kiss, but they inducted them anyway. Then Paul starts talking about the veterans. As he is saying this, a man in an LA Kiss jersey is walking towards the center of the field where Paul is. He's not a veteran. He isn't even related to a veteran. He's just some drunk guy who wandered onto the field. He even tried taking Paul's RnRHoF trophy, but security got him off the field. What the hell is going on at this show? Women in cages, BMX bikers, drunk guys walking on the field. This is nuts. Casey's final judgment of the LA Kiss: 4/10. Neither he or Kyle think the LA Kiss will last long.But they'll see. The LA Kiss will thrive, just like the XFL……oh wait.
00:10:00 To introduce today's topic, Pat smoothly transitions to a song by Kiss. Off their album Music from "The Elder", the song is called "I".
Yes, today we are finally completing the Rock Solid-opedia by covering the last letter left: I. Pat wanted to do this episode alone, but he realized that he didn't have a lot of "I" artists in his music collection. So today's songs will be coming from both Pat and the listeners. About 3/4 of today's songs were sent to Pat after he reached to the Rock Solid listeners for I band suggestions.
Pat's first pick is by a band called The Ides of March. Off their album Vehicle, it's the title track, "Vehicle". Jim Peterik, the lead singer and main songwriter, went on to be in the band Survivor, in case you were wondering.
00:15:00 The first listener pick comes to us from Scott Adams. Scott is a big David Bowie fan and he helped Pat when Pat was going through Bowie's entire catalogue. Off the album Man of Colours, it's Icehouse with "Electric Blue".
When Pat was going to college in Pennsylvania, everyone wanted Donnie Iris to play a concert there. This pick comes from Will Pfeifer. Off the album Back on the Streets, it's the song "Ah! Leah!".
Pat's next pick requires him to do a shitty impression. REALLY shitty. It's Enrique Iglesias, but Pat's impression sounds like a mix between Antonio Banderas and Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. Pat plays the song "Hero", off the album Escape. Did I mention the impression was shit?
00:20:00 How would Casey and Kyle describe their dad's taste in music? "Old school," says Casey. "Terrible," says Kyle. Their dad, Pat's brother, listens to really old songs with a newer song thrown in every once in a while. As Pat says, "It's like if Rain Man made you a mix tape."
"Yeah, I put Jessica Andrews and Vic Damone on this tape, yeah."
This next pick comes from listener Brian Smith. It's "His Majesty Is Coming" by The In Crowd, off the album His Majesty Is Coming. Pat's not a fan of reggae music. He doesn't hate it, he just doesn't like it either.
Our next listener pick comes to us from Frank Biernat. Frank donated to both Rock Solid (via that handy dandy button on the side of this page) and to Garon Cockrell's Kickstarter fund for his website Pop Culture Beast. Frank donated enough money to get to be a co-host for a future episode of Rock Solid. There's just one problem: Frank doesn't live in this country. He's from Switzerland. Something tells me Frank isn't gonna fly international just to hear Pat play the latest Rick Springfield album. Or maybe he will, who knows. Europeans are odd ducks. Anyway, Frank's choice is a band called Ideal. The song is "Eiszeit", off the album Der Ernst des Lebens.
00:25:00 Another cool fun fact from Pat: The woman who originally wrote his next pick is former roommates with his wife Pilar. Off her album Left of the Middle, it's Natalie Imbruglia with her version of the song "Torn".
The next listener pick is from David L. Williams, who is a member of the Never Not Funny Player's Club. His membership number is 0069. Up top, my brotha! Off the album Ones and Zeros, it's Immaculate Machine with "Broken Ship".
00:30:00 Time for another listener pick. This one comes from… wait a minute, it's me! Andrew Rich! My time to shine has come at last! Ha ha, you all suck, losers. I'm better than you!!!!!!!!………… *ahem* Excuse me. It appears my ego got the better of me there. Let's just forget that happened, okay? Great. The song is "Obstacle 1" by Interpol, off the album Turn on the Bright Lights.
Well, it appears many people asked Pat to play this next band, Iron Butterfly. Gee, I wonder what song Pat is gonna play? If you haven't been living under a rock for the past fifty years, you probably guessed correctly: it's "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" off the album In-a-Gadda-da-Vida. The shitty thing is that on iTunes, they have the full 17-minute version of the song, so you can't just buy the one song. You have to buy the whole album. Lucky us.
00:35:00 Listening to "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" reminds Kyle of when it was played on The Simpsons, which brings up Homer's awful season one voice. "Let's all go out for some frosty chocolate milkshakes." Remember that shit? It sounded like his throat was caked in dried milk. Thankfully Dan Castellaneta, the voice of Homer Simpson, changed it for the rest of the series because the original voice hurt his throat too much.
The next pick comes from listener/Rock Solid contributor Glen K. Amo. Glen is one of the guys who does the episode artwork for the Facebook page banners. You should definitely check them out, they're really great. Off the album Nomads Indians Saints, it's Indigo Girls with "The Girl with the Weight of the World in Her Hands".
Pat's the kind of guy where if he buys one Indigo Girls album, he'll probably buy every single Indigo Girls album in the span of a few weeks. He did this is with David Bowie, Elvis Costello, Thin Lizzy, Yes. He's doing it right now with Joe Jackson.
00:40:00 Pat had a not so great experience with buying a Joe Jackson CD, actually. He ordered Jackson's album Night and Day II off of E-Bay. When he got the album, the CD wasn't Joe Jackson. It was some random African singer. If you can't trust someone on the internet to send you a Joe Jackson CD, who can you trust, folks?
The next listener pick is from Steve Herold. It's "Ghost on a Beach" by The Insiders off the album Ghost on a Beach.
Kyle and Casey's parents are old fuddy duddys. They don't know how to handle technology. They're only five years older than Pat, for God's sake! Will that happen to Pat when he gets older? Nah, man. He'll be the cool old guy, teaching thirteen-year-olds about The Pretenders and playing tennis with his robot butler. Kyle's dad watches Dog Whisperer, but he's never owned a dog. He also doesn't like Kiss, but he watches Gene Simmons' Family Jewels. Getting old sucks.
00:45:00 Rick Richmond picked this next artist. From their album Glow, it's "Bright as Yellow" by The Innocence Mission. The Innocence Mission are from Lancaster, PA, where the Amish live. Pat tells a quick story. He was once in Lancaster, minding his own business. All of a sudden, Harrison Ford comes riding by in a buggy, dressed like an Amish man. Harrison Ford punches a guy on the street for mouthing off. Then an older Amish guy chastised Ford for beating him up. True story…………*sigh* Jesus Christ, Pat. Jesus Fucking Christ.
Pat wants everyone to know that he LOVES Billy Idol's latest studio album, Devil's Playground. He plays the song "Super Overdrive". Pat wants Billy on the podcast just so Billy could sneer at him. Pat tells another quick story. Pilar used to work at Dreamworks. She and Pat went to the premiere for The Lost World: Jurassic Park. Pat went to the bathroom to take a piss and who's there standing next to him at the urinal? Billy Idol. Makes you wonder if Pat took a quick peak at what Billy was packing. I mean, it would be rude not to look.
00:50:00 The next listener pick is from Andrew Hoskins. The song is "It's Time" by Imagine Dragons off the album Night Visions. Kyle doesn't like Imagine Dragons. The radio stations play them over and over, it's too much. Casey has a strange taste in music, by the way. He like The Beatles, but only their early hits. No deep stuff. And he likes listening to Rihanna and Katy Perry, partly because they're hot. Well, can't argue with him there.
Up next, a song from listener John Morrison. He requested the band Ivan & Alyosha, with their song "Don't Wanna Die Anymore", off the album All the Times We Had.
00:55:00 Jamie Whitlock is the next listener with a pick. It's The Isley Brothers and their big song "This Old Heart of Mine (Is Weak for You)", off the album This Old Heart of Mine.
Pat's next pick is Chris Isaak. Now, Pat doesn't dislike Chris Isaak, but he was never on his radar. But one time, Pat saw Stevie Nicks with Jimmy Pardo (because they are secretly two 60-year-old women in disguise). Chris Isaak opened for Stevie and he was pretty good.
01:00:00 Pilar loves Chris Isaak. In fact, the song Pat chose gets Pilar rather hot. So whenever Pat wants to do the horizontal tango with his woman, he'll just put this song on and they'll go galavanting into Sex Town. It's "Baby Did a Bad Bad Thing" off the album Forever Blue. Enrique Francis returns with his rendition of the song. It's still a terrible impression.
Chris Isaak is his name. Sexy rockabilly is his game.
Coming up next is the second to last listener pick. It's from Tom Neuerburg. There's some confusion over how to pronounce his last name. Tom and Pat share a love of Thin Lizzy. The song is "Don't Change" by INXS, off the album Shoobah Shabooh. INXS have a lot of great songs, according to Pat. Thanks, Captain Obvious.
01:05:00 The last listener pick is from Laura L. and it's Incubus. Should Pat like them? I dunno, I like their hits. What are you asking us for, you're a grown man. Make your own decisions. The song is "Echo" from the album Morning View.
Pat has some quick business to take care of before he plays his last pick. Next week will the final episode of Year Three of the show. Pat thanks everyone involved with the show: Murray, Mike, April, Christy, and Kyle. All the listeners, Jason Wilcox for creating the Guide, me for maintaining the Guide, Scott Phillips for making the fan forum. And let's not forget the guys who make the artwork: Glen K. Amo, Jason Levy, Jamie Whitlock, and Erin Gould. Congratulations everyone, here's to a fantastic Year Four!!!
01:10:00 Pat's final pick is an all-time classic that has to be played on this episode. Off their album Piece of Mind, it's Iron Maiden with "The Trooper".
The show is over, as is the Rock Solid-opedia. 26 letters and a whole lot of fun. Kyle closes us out with "Come Clarity" by In Flames off of the album Come Clarity.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:10:00 I Music from "The Elder" Kiss Pat
00:10:00 Vehicle Vehicle The Ides of March Pat
00:15:00 Electric Blue Man of Colours Icehouse Scott Adams
00:15:00 Ah! Leah! Back on the Streets Donnie Iris Will Pfeifer
00:15:00 Hero Escape Enrique Iglesias Pat
00:20:00 His Majesty Is Coming His Majesty Is Coming The In Crowd Brian Smith
00:20:00 Eiszeit Der Ernst des Lebens Ideal Frank Biernat
00:25:00 Torn Left of the Middle Natalie Imbruglia Pat
00:25:00 Broken Ship Ones and Zeros Immaculate Machine David L. Williams
00:30:00 Obstacle 1 Turn on the Bright Lights Interpol Andrew Rich
00:30:00 In-a-Gadda-da-Vida In-a-Gadda-da-Vida Iron Butterfly Pat
00:35:00 The Girl with the Weight of the World in Her Hands Nomads Indians Saints Indigo Girls Glen K. Amo
00:40:00 Ghost on the Beach Ghost on the Beach The Insiders Steve Herold
00:45:00 Bright as Yellow Glow The Innocence Mission Rick Richmond
00:45:00 Super Overdrive Devil's Playground Billy Idol Pat
00:50:00 It's TIme Night Visions Imagine Dragons Andrew Hoskins
00:50:00 Don't Wanna Die Anymore All the Times We Had Ivan & Aloysha John Morrison
00:55:00 This Old Heart of Mine (Is Weak for You) This Old Heart of Mine The Isley Brothers Jamie Whitlock
01:00:00 Baby Did a Bad Bad Thing Forever Blue Chris Isaak Pat
01:00:00 Don't Change Shabooh Shoobah INXS Tom Neuerburg
01:05:00 Echo Morning View Interpol Laura L.
01:10:00 The Trooper Piece of Mind Iron Maiden Pat
01:10:00 Come Clarity Come Clarity In Flames Kyle

Friday, June 20, 2014

Episode 153: Mad World



Episode 153: Mad World
Pat and April are joined by "Mad World" Co-Author Jonathan Bernstein to discuss New Wave Artists and Songs that defined the 1980's.
From June 19, 2014

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

April Richardson

00:00:00 Pat welcomes us to the show. Today we have a very special guest. He's one of the co-author's of the new book "Mad World: An Oral History of New Wave Artists and Songs that Defined the 1980s." It's Jonathan Bernstein. Welcome to the show Jonathan!
The book's author co-author is Lori Majewski. The foreword to the book was written by Nick Rhodes from Duran Duran and the afterword was written by Moby. Jonathan was a musician songwriter-turned-rock journalist in the 90s for Spin Magazine. Lori was the intern who was obsessed with Duran Duran. Jonathan and Lori formed a reluctant relationship despite their differences, much like Tango & Cash, except Jonathan and Lori weren't in a shitty movie. Lori went on to become a magazine editor and she and Jonathan have been friends ever since. This book is a result of that.


Kyle is not on mic today, but he does have a phone call for us.

  • Jeff from San Jose has a VERY long message. He just watched the lovely and talented April Richardson on @midnight. He wants Pat to read excerpts from Paul Stanley's autobiography as Paul Stanley. He notifies us that there is a David Lee Roth app that has all of his signature screams and howls. And he wants more "years" podcasts. Jesus, Jeff, wrap it up. He likes that Kyle is coming into his own on the podcast. I'm sure Kyle loves that. Oh, and Jeff tells Pat to go fuck himself as one would do.
00:05:00 Speaking of Kyle, someone donated a few bucks to support the podcast. This benefactor also had a message: Please stop letting Kyle pick those awful play out songs. Well, I guess not everyone enjoys listening to Metalcore after a two hour podcast with Steely Dan and Robert Palmer. Sorry Jeff, no Paul Stanley or David Lee Roth today. This week is all about new wave.
Jonathan tells us about his backstory. He's originally from Glasgow, Scotland. He was in a band in his teens called April Showers, which had only one single. It wasn't a hit in the UK, but for some reason, the Philippines loves it. Jonathan also co-wrote a song for Deborah Harry for one of her solo albums, which gets played. From her album Debravation, the song is called "Strike Me Pink".
Jonathan was also a screenwriter. He wrote Just My Luck with Lindsay Lohan and Chris Pine, which predicted Lindsay's descent into a cavern of freckles and cocaine. He also wrote Max Keeble's Big Move, which came out the same week as 9/11. Jonathan wrote The Spy Next Door, which ended Jackie Chan's US movie career. And he wrote Larry the Cable Guy: Health Inspector, which has a solid 5% on Rotten Tomatoes. Jonathan, a word to the wise: STAY AWAY FROM THIS PODCAST!!!!
00:10:00 This book "Mad World" is right up Pat and April's alley. Jonathan's favorite album is The Lexicon of Love by ABC, which April absolutely adores. She once flew to England just to see ABC, Human League, and Heaven 17 in concert. There were kids at the concert singing all the lyrics to Human League songs, and it turns out they were the singer's sons.
ABC's lead singer Martin Fry still looks good. People forget that Martin Fry was originally a punk. In fact, most of those new wave bands were just punk bands that turned into pop superstars. April notes that Sheffield, where bands like ABC and Human League came from, is the Detroit of England. It's an industrial city, so these bands had to make their own glamour. Jonathan finds that '76-'78 is a crucial time period for the formation of new wave because it's the best of British punk and the best of American funk and disco. Early new wave essentially became White kids making songs that combined funk, punk, and disco together.
April plays a song by ABC off of The Lexicon of Love. It's a song called "Tears Are Not Enough".
00:15:00 April loves her some horn sections in songs. Again, we need an episode of the show called "Let's Get Horny," where bands that normally don't have a horn section use them in a song. Since April just played ABC, Pat decides to play what he originally thought was the poor man's ABC, but now realizes they sound nothing like ABC. Off their album True, it's Spandau Ballet with "Gold".
Spandau Ballet were originally the coolest new wave band of new wave bands. They hung out outside the back of the school, smoking cigarettes and wearing leather jackets. Duran Duran, meanwhile, were seen as Spandau Ballet wannabes. They weren't good enough to wipe the dirt off of Spandau Ballet's shoes. BUT Duran Duran got more American popularity. In terms of US chart success, the biggest bands were Duran Duran, INXS, and Tears for Fears. Jonathan chose "Mad World" as the title of the book because other song titles were either already taken or too obscure. Also, the idea of the book was to tell the stories of the bands through the lens of their breakthrough song.
Since we're already talking about it, Pat plays "Mad World" by Tears for Fears from their debut album The Hurting.
00:20:00 John's favorite band in the book is Dexys Midnight Runners. Dexys had a bunch of hits in the UK, but only one hit in the US. They're seen as a joke in the States and Dexys are painfully aware of it. Jonathan, Pat, and April talk about MTV. MTV wasn't designed to play British new wave. They were designed for top 40. But when they needed to fill the time slots, that's when these bands started getting exposure in the US. MTV is what brought new wave to Pat and April. April remembers watching Adam Ant videos. They were exotic, dirty. He and the other new wave bands were descendants of glam rock and David Bowie. Everything in the 80s scene came from Bowie in the 70s. He changed people.
"David Bowie was The Beatles of the 80s."
- Jonathan, with the line of the episode.
00:25:00 Adam and the Ants were an average punk band that decided to dress weird and play weird. April picks a song from their album Prince Charming. It's the title track, "Prince Charming".
Pat follows this up with the band that formed when everyone from Adam and the Ants except Adam Ant left the band. It's Bow Wow Wow with their hit song "I Want Candy", from their EP The Last of the Mohicans. Bow Wow Wow's lead singer Annabella Lwin was only 13 when she got selected to join the band. That's creepy. Who was the band's manager, Elvis Presley?
The book is really beautiful to look at. Lots of color photos, lots of great interviews. Pat asks Jonathan who were the easiest people to get in touch with and who were the most difficult. Jonathan says that Bananarama are not in the book because their person was very difficult to talk to. Hell, Bananarama probably weren't even aware that Jonathan wanted to interview them. They're Bananarama, they'll do the Tuscaloosa Rodeo if it pays. The guy from Kajagoogoo, Limahl, was a great interview, but Jonathan suspects that his manager isn't a real person. As in, Jonathan was communicating with Limahl the whole time. If that's true, what happened to Limahl's real manager? Can we get someone to check Limahl's basement, please?
Kajagoogoo's hair. Maybe they're born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline.
00:30:00 Lori interviewed Adam Ant in person. Adam was in full regalia. Pat and his "concert wife" (a.k.a. someone who goes to concerts with Pat when his wife Pilar can't be bothered) saw Adam Ant in concert. Pat was reluctant to go, but once he saw it, he loved it. He still dressed like he was in the gay military and he wore a high waisted belt to hide his belly, but Adam still sounded great. Lori's Adam Ant interview was also great.
Most of the interviews were over the phone. Jonathan's interview with Andy McCluskey from Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark was face to face. OMD is another band that had a few US hits, but a lot of UK hits. OMD's big hit came from a John Hughes movie. John Hughes brought recognition to a lot of new wave bands when he put them in his movies, but it was also a curse because the US concert audiences would only know that one song.
Pat plays Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark and their big hit "If You Leave", off the compilation album The Best of OMD.
00:35:00 That song was written in one night. All the big songs are, aren't they? Bands that didn't make it in the book: Dream Academy, Culture Club, Eurythmics, Frankie Goes to Hollywood. There just wasn't enough time or room to put them in. Jonathan and Lori also didn't hear back from M, Nik Kershaw, or Pet Shop Boys. Pet Shop Boys didn't want to be in the book because they didn't consider themselves to be an 80s band. The good news is that when volume two of the book comes out, it won't be a bunch of jabronis that are in. It'll be bands like The Cure, Blondie, The B-52s, The Cars, Eurythmics, Culture Club, etc. Of all the bands that refused to be in the book, who hurt the most? Jonathan says Scritti Politti and Japan.
April was obsessed with Devo. They're more than just "Whip It" or "Working in a Coal Mine." Sadly, Gerald Casale from Devo didn't like the book.
00:40:00 Jonathan and Lori were respectful, but Gerald didn't like how he was portrayed in the "Where Are They Now?" section of the Devo chapter. Jonathan didn't mean anything by it, but Gerald just didn't like it. On a side note, Pat loves the mix tape section at the end of each chapter because they have different bands that aren't in the book. April's next song is by Devo. Off their big album Freedom of Choice, it's "Girl U Want".
Did Jonathan have to cut out any interviews? He cut out "Money" by The Flying Lizards. He also cut out Toni Basil. Toni's interview was a hassle to say the least. She takes herself waaaaaaay too seriously, and she also might be crazy. Stone cold cuckoo's nest crazy. There were very complicated steps just to talk to her. Toni yelled at Jonathan right off the bat. Jonathan wanted to talk about her entire career, starting with her small acting gig in a Monkees movie. She yelled at him about that.
00:45:00 Jonathan talked with her about choreographing David Bowie's Diamond Dogs tour. Toni yelled at him about that. She was furious with every single thing. Hey Toni, what about the rumors of the song "Mickey" being about a woman rebuking her gay boyfriend? YELLYELLYELLYOU'REWRONGYELLYELLYELLHOWDAREYOUYELLYELLYELL! Jonathan actually researched her history, but Toni kept chastising him the entire time. The whole thing was too awkward for the book. It really sucks when someone is a jerk when they don't need to be. Especially a psycho crazy bitch jerk like Toni Basil.
The face of sanity.
Lucky Lori, on the other hand, got to hang out with New Order. April lights up like a Christmas tree. Pat wonders how Lori and Jonathan divided the artists, because April would have certainly rigged that game to get her favorites.
00:50:00 We get a double shot of INXS from their album Listen Like Thieves. April plays "What You Need" and then Pat plays "This Time". Poor Michael Hutchence. So talented, yet so tormented. Rock in peace.
You know who still looks good? John Taylor from Duran Duran. He certainly drank from the right Holy Grail. April was never on board with Duran Duran. In the UK they seemed like an also-ran at first, but you had to look past the surface and really get into the music. April's babysitter's room was covered in Duran Duran posters. She watched MTV and listened to the records, but April never got into them herself. It's weird because she liked the beautiful boys like Boy George, George Michael, and Adam Ant. Duran Duran is an entire group of beautiful men, yet April said "no no no, not for me."
00:55:00 Pat's got a Duran Duran song for us. Off their compilation album Greatest, it's "Is There Something I Should Know?".
April can't go another second without playing some New Order. She plays "The Perfect Kiss" from their album Low-Life. Peter Hook, ex-member of New Order, was recently wearing a Mad World t-shirt on stage. T-shirts should hopefully be available soon from the website, madworldbook.com. Limahl from Kajagoogoo was a surprisingly pleasant interview. "He wasn't shy?" asks Pat. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…………no. Kajagoogoo and New Order are two bands where the singer and the bass player had a huge clash.
Okay, here we go: The Smiths. Every chapter has commentary from both Lori and Jonathan. Lori loves pretty much everybody, including The Smiths. John's commentary for The Smiths was three simple words: Not a fan. John actually wrote a short film about a grifter who cons gullible Smiths fans into visiting locations from Smiths songs.
01:00:00 With The Smiths, Jonathan doesn't love them or hate them. They're just a band to him. The inclusion of The Smiths in the book is a bit weird because The Smiths felt that they were the antithesis of new wave bands like Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet. By the way, is new wave an appropriate term for all these bands? Or does it cover too many bands, putting them in a category that they don't necessarily belong in? Jonathan says that back in those days, there was a new music trend every week because the British music papers needed to sustain an audience. How would you classify The Smiths if they aren't new wave? April says that they are indie pop and C86, but maybe The Smiths don't agree with that label either. The Smiths tried very hard to be plain. They were the dirty guys who couldn't get into the clubs.
01:05:00 Jonathan says that Scottish music fans want their bands to be successful, but they kinda don't want them to either. For years, he thought Simple Minds was shit, but that was just his Scottish bias. The great thing about music is that it never disappears and Jonathan can revisit these bands to listen to them and to form a new opinion on them. Pat's in a Joe Jackson phase, which reminds Jonathan that he and Lori were wondering if "Steppin' Out" should be in Vol. 2. Joe's a known curmudgeon, so probably not.
April finally gets to play her Smiths song. She picks "Bigmouth Strikes Again" from their album The Queen Is Dead.
Pat plays another of his favorite new wave bands, The Psychedelic Furs. Off their album Midnight to Midnight, it's "Heartbreak Beat".
01:10:00 Jonathan plugs the book's twitter, @madworldbook, and his own twitter, @jbpeevish. Are there any other new wave bands that we need to listen to?
April has some A-ha. Pat HATES A-ha. He doesn't know why, but they just get on his nerves. A-ha had one hit in the US and a career in Europe. Well isn't that good for them. They also wrote the worst James Bond theme ever, "The Living Daylights." Pat spits on the "The Living Daylights" theme, he does. April plays an alternate version of "Take On Me" by A-ha from the album Hunting High and Low. Pat is just disgusted on all accounts.
Come on, Pat. Are you telling me you don't like the keyboard stylings of Magne Furuholmen? Or the guitar licks of Pål Waaktaar? What about the angelic voice of Morten Harket? Wait, are these band members or Game of Thrones characters?
Quick, we need to cleanse Pat's palate and get that Norwegian shit out of his ears. April makes the save with "Strangelove" by Depeche Mode, off the album Music for the Masses.
01:15:00 The newer electronic bands started with Depeche Mode. Jonathan has a word of warning: The Depeche Mode in the book is the early era of the band and not the Violator, S&M era of the band, just so you bondage lovers are aware.
The charity supergroup Band Aid is also in the book. Jonathan refers to them as the end of the superficiality road. He interviewed Midge Ure from Ultravox for the Band Aid chapter. He's a great guy. Did you know he was in Thin Lizzy for a little bit? I had no idea. Pat plays Band Aid's big single "Do They Know It's Christmas?. It's a lot doomier than "We Are the World."
This book is great. It's a total coffee table book, and a bathroom book as well. Nothing's better than sitting on the toilet, squeezing out last night's dinner, and reading about Soft Cell. There are way too many bands in the book to get through in one episode: Gary Numan, Echo & the Bunnymen, Animotion, Thompson Twins, Human League, The Waitresses, Heaven 17.
01:25:00 Jonathan's got another warning: The Human League chapter is not about the 80s Human League, but the early version of the band. The 80s era of the band repeatedly turned Lori and Jonathan down. Ironic, considering that their biggest hit is called "Don't You Want Me."
Pat's got some copies of "Mad World" to give away to the listeners. He's also got two copies to give away of Echo & the Bunnymen's new album Meteorites. We plug the twitters, we plug the websites, we plug the Guide.
Pat ends the show with his play out song. Off of the new album Meteorites by Echo & the Bunnymen, it's a song called "Lovers on the Run".
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:05:00 Strike Me Pink Debravation Deborah Harry Jonathan
00:10:00 Tears Are Not Enough The Lexicon of Love ABC April
00:15:00 Gold True Spandau Ballet Pat
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00:50:00 What You Need Listen Like Thieves INXS April
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