Thursday, May 1, 2014

Episode 147: Super Groups



Episode 147: Super Groups
Pat and Co-Host Mike Siegel slip on their capes and tights to play songs from the world's mightiest bands!
From May 1, 2014

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

Mike Siegel

00:00:00 Pat welcomes us to the show. As promised on the Travelin' Tales episode, Mike Siegel has returned. Kyle and Pat's daughter Sarah were playing a board game called Rampage last night. It's for ages 8 and up, so a 24-year-old fits right in. Kyle explains the rules of the game. When it comes to playing games with the kids, Kyle's a go-getter. Pat, not so much. He plays with his daughters every now and then. Pat's youngest, Rita, cries when she doesn't win, which annoys Pat. Mike can't own a video game system, because he's afraid to get sucked in. Hey, I get it. Between the TV, internet, and incessant masturbation, who has the time, right?
Pat introduces today's topic: Super Groups! Mike isn't really sure what constitutes a super group. There's a bit of a grey area there. He's gonna play it a little loose this episode. Pat thinks it's just when members of famous bands come together to form a new band. Mike plugs his podcast Travel Tales. Pat reminds us of the donation button on the Rock Solid Guide (located handily on the side of the web page.) Remember folks, all proceeds go to The Robin Zander Band Better T-Shirt Fund. Because only you can save this solo band from shitty merchandise.
This is the front of the shirt. Please give.
00:05:00

  • Tommy Shaw from Styx
  • Jack Blades from Night Ranger
  • Michael Cartellone, who would later be in Lynyrd Skynyrd
  • and "Uncle Ted" himself, Ted Nugent



Damn Yankees

Pat plays "Coming of Age" from the album Damn Yankees. Mike suggests that Ted Nugent is better with a band than as a solo artist. Maybe the other band members are mixing Lorazepam in his deer steak to calm him down.


  • Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots
  • Slash from Guns N' Roses
  • Duff McKagan from Guns N' Roses
  • Matt Sorum from Guns N' Roses
  • and Dave Kushner from Danzig



Velvet Revolver

Mike plays "Slither" from the album Contraband. Poor Slash, Duff, and Matt. They got rid of one asshole lead singer in Axl Rose and fell smack dab into another one, Scott Weiland. Weiland is great onstage, but again: MAJOR ASSHOLE. Pat always thought that Billy Idol would have been a great lead singer for Velvet Revolver. Mike disagrees, saying he's not hard rock enough for the fit.
00:10:00

  • John Wetton from King Crimson
  • Steve Howe from Yes
  • Geoff Downes from The Buggles and Yes
  • and Carl Palmer from Emerson, Lake and Palmer



Asia

Although we don't hear it, I'm 99.9% sure Mike's eyes are rolling. Pat plays "Finger on the Trigger" from the album Omega. Mike doesn't like it, not one bit. Asia just released a new album, Gravitas, with new guitarist Sam Coulson. (It's really good, by the way). Steve Howe amicably left the band to focus on Yes. Speaking of Steve Howe, Pat and Kyle went to see Asia a little while ago, and Pat wanted Howe's and Wetton's autograph. Backstage, Pat met Howe and presented two Asia albums for autographing. Howe asked, "Do you really wanna do this?" What the hell does that mean? Pat wonders. Was he expecting Pat to fight him? Anyway, Howe signed the albums. Mortal Kombat showdown averted.


  • Robert Palmer
  • Tony Thompson from Chic
  • John Taylor from Duran Duran
  • and Andy Taylor from Duran Duran



The Power Station

Mike plays "Some Like It Hot" from the album The Power Station. Rock in Peace, Robert Palmer. He died when he was 54-years-old.
00:15:00 When The Power Station toured, Robert Palmer wasn't their lead singer. Instead, Michael Des Barres got to sing at all the live shows. That's pretty cool for Michael Des Barres, because he got to play Live Aid.


  • Taylor Hanson from Hanson
  • James Iha from Smashing Pumpkins
  • Adam Schlesinger from Fountains of Wayne
  • and Bun E. Carlos from Cheap Trick



Tinted Windows

From their album Tinted Windows, Pat plays "We Got Nothing". Pat really likes Tinted Windows. Pat tells a story about how when Bun E. Carlos joined the band, he made an arrangement with the other members. If he liked the songs, they would pay him $50. If he didn't like the songs, they would pay him $100.


  • Dave Grohl from The Foo Fighters and Nirvana
  • John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin
  • and Josh Homme from Queens of the Stone Age



Them Crooked Vultures

Off the album Them Crooked Vultures, Mike plays "New Fang". Somehow, Pat just can't get into Queens of the Stone Age. He'll have to pick and choose a couple songs from their discography and see what he thinks.


  • John Waite from The Babys
  • Ricky Phillips from The Babys
  • Jonathan Cain from The Babys and Journey
  • Neal Schon from Journey
  • and Deen Castronovo, who would later be in Journey



Bad English

Pat plays "Rebel Say a Prayer" from their second album Backlash.
00:20:00 John Waite does not like singing "When I See You Smile" in concert. In fact, he doesn't sing it in concert at all. Pat still likes the song, though. Mike and Pat get into why Bad English broke up. Signs point to Neal Schon, who might be a bit pretentious. We get it, Neal, you can play the guitar. You don't need a two minute solo in every song.


  • Lionel Richie
  • Stevie Wonder
  • Bruce Springsteen
  • Michael Jackson
  • and Tina Turner, Diana Ross, Kenny Loggins, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan, Ray Charles, Steve Perry, Hall & Oates, Dionne Warwick, Willie Nelson, Al Jarreau, Kenny Rogers, Billy Joel, Huey Lewis, James Ingram, Cyndi Lauper, and Kim Carnes



USA for Africa

Start the timer, 'cause Mike plays "We Are the World" from the album We Are the World for over two minutes. Check your egos at the door, folks, 'cause the recording studio can't hold that much. Diana Ross's ego alone would make the floor collapse.
Cyndi Lauper and Kenny Loggins are giving each other the bedroom eyes. Get a room, you two.
00:25:00

  • Glenn Hughes from Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, and Trapeze
  • Joe Bonamassa
  • Derek Sherinian from Dream Theater
  • and Jason Bonham from Bonham, Foreigner, UFO, and Led Zeppelin



Black Country Communion

Pat plays "One Last Soul" from their first album Black Country Communion. Black Country Communion broke up recently, so Hughes and Bonham just started a new band called California Breed.


  • Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac
  • and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers



Stevie Nicks and the Heartbreakers

Okay, so that's not really a super group. But Mike did say there was a grey area. Besides, Mike plays "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" from the album Bella Donna, which is a great song. Stevie Nicks is also the "Sixth Heartbreaker", according to the band. I always thought that honor went to Pat Benatar's ex-boyfriend.


  • Sammy Hagar from Montrose and Van Halen
  • Neal Schon from Journey
  • Kenny Aaronson, a session bassist
  • and Michael Shrieve from Santana



H.S.A.S.

Pat plays "Top of the Rock" from their only album Through the Fire. Hey, Pat could have played Chickenfoot. Consider yourselves lucky.
00:30:00 With a lot of these super groups, it's a case of guys just moving around a lot. Sammy Hagar, Neal Schon, Joe Satriani. Eric Clapton, certainly. Chris Cornell's another guy. Wait, did I just say Chris Cornell? That's funny, because...


  • Chris Cornell from Soundgarden
  • Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine
  • Brad Wilk from Rage Against the Machine
  • and Tim Commerford from Rage Against the Machine



Audioslave

Off their first album Audioslave, Mike plays the hit song "Cochise". Pat isn't a fan of Soundgarden or Rage Against the Machine, so none of that really appeals to him. Pat does like Chris Cornell's James Bond theme, however. Mike brings up Tom Morello, and an ill wind passes over the studio. Pat doesn't like Tom Morello. He thinks he's clunking up the latest Springsteen tour. There's too many guitarists on stage, for God's sake!
Let's get Bruce in here and ask him just how many guitars he has on stage. Let's see now, there's Bruce, Nils Lofgren, Little Steven. Patti's got a guitar and he can't give her the boot because they're married. And Tom Morello makes five. Sorry, Tom Morello makes "1! 2! 3! 4! 5!"


  • Paul Rodgers from Free and Bad Company
  • Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin
  • Tony Franklin, who would later be in Blue Murder, Whitesnake, and Quiet Riot
  • and Chris Slade from Manfred Mann's Earth Band



The Firm

Pat plays "Radioactive" from the album The Firm. For a Jimmy Page band, it sounds very un-Jimmy Pagey.
00:35:00 Pat and Mike concur that most super groups don't last too long. One to two albums, three if they're lucky, and that's it. Asia is the only super group that comes to mind that has managed to survive for so long. Why do super groups break up so fast? Ego, most likely. That and a loss of fun.


  • Damon Albarn from Blur
  • and Jamie Hewlett, comic book artist and co-creator of Tank Girl



Gorillaz

Remember when I said Mike was gonna play it loose this episode? Well, he's at it again, this time with a virtual band of musically-proficient apes. Mike plays "Feel Good Inc." from the album Demon Days.


  • Steve Jones from The Sex Pistols
  • Duff McKagan from Guns N' Roses
  • Matt Sorum from Guns N' Roses
  • and John Taylor from Duran Duran



Neurotic Outsiders

Pat plays "Angelina" from the album Neurotic Outsiders. Steve Jones is a bit on the heavy side, these days. Note to all rockers: Get bald, get skinny. But whatever you do, DON'T GET FAT.
The same goes for movie stars. Easy on the cheeseburgers, Kilmer.
00:40:00

  • Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam
  • Stone Gossard from Pearl Jam
  • Mike McCready from Pearl Jam
  • Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam
  • Matt Cameron from Pearl Jam and Soundgarden
  • and Chris Cornell from Soundgarden



Temple of the Dog

From their only album Temple of the Dog, Mike plays "Hunger Strike". Another super group for Chris Cornell. Maybe he can join Sammy Hagar and Neal Schon. I wonder what a band like that would be called?…
"S.H.I.T."
- Pat's suggestion
"They can make Chickenshit."
- Kyle's suggestion


  • Mick Jagger from The Rolling Stones
  • Dave Stewart from Eurythmics
  • Joss Stone
  • Ziggy Marley
  • and A.R. Rahman, an Indian musician



SuperHeavy

Pat plays the song "SuperHeavy" from the album SuperHeavy. Those are four people out of their comfort zones, according to Mike. Despite all odds, Pat likes that song. Mike's not so warm about it. "It's a lot of something and all of nothing," he says. The album didn't get great reviews, except for Rolling Stone, which gave it four stars. Typical.
00:45:00

  • George Harrison from The Beatles
  • Tom Petty from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
  • Bob Dylan
  • Roy Orbison
  • and Jeff Lynne from Electric Light Orchestra



The Traveling Wilburys

Mike plays "Handle with Care", off the first album Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1. The second Traveling Wilburys album is called Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3. Chickenfoot would do the same thing 20 years later, with their first album Chickenfoot and their second album Chickenfoot III. Between the tequila shots and the ATV riding, Sammy must have been laughing up a storm when he came up with that one. Pat and Mike talk about how The Traveling Wilburys came together. Pat suggests that they replace George Harrison and Roy Orbison with Paul McCartney and Joe Walsh. I like the way you think, Francis.


  • Michael Schenker from UFO, Scorpions, and Michael Schenker Group
  • Richard Black from Shark Island
  • Tracii Guns from L.A. Guns
  • Share Pedersen from Vixen
  • and Bobby Blotzer from Ratt



Contraband

Off their album Contraband, Pat plays "All the Way from Memphis".
00:50:00 Pat admits that that album isn't really good. It's all covers. That's not to say it's completely bad, it's just… not that good.


  • Eric Clapton from Cream, Blind Faith, and The Yardbirds
  • Duane Allman from The Allman Brothers Band
  • Jim Gordon from Delaney and Bonnie and Friends
  • Carl Ridle from Delaney and Bonnie and Friends
  • and Bobby Whitlock from Delaney and Bonnie and Friends



Derek and the Dominos

Off their only album Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs, Mike plays "Layla".


  • Eric Clapton from Cream, Derek and the Dominos, and The Yardbirds
  • Steve Winwood from Traffic
  • Ginger Baker from Cream
  • and Ric Grech from Family



Blind Faith

For Mike's second Clapton supergroup, he plays "Can't Find My Way Home" from the album Blind Faith.


  • Michael Des Barres
  • Steve Jones from The Sex Pistols
  • Tony Sales from Tin Machine
  • Nigel Harrison from Blondie
  • and Clem Burke from Blondie



Chequered Past

For Pat's last pick, he plays "How Much Is Too Much?" from the album Chequered Past.
00:55:00 Mike gives apologies to Bad Company and Rockpile.


  • David Crosby from The Byrds
  • Stephen Stills from Buffalo Springfield
  • Graham Nash from The Hollies
  • and Neil Young from Buffalo Springfield



Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

For Mike's last pick, he plays "Woodstock" from the album Déjà Vu. Mike also forgot about the super group Little Village, only remembering them on the drive over.
Pat and Mike start wrapping this whole shebang up. Mike plugs his podcast and Twitter, and Pat reminds us about the donation button. Just a few dollars, folks. Please. Robin Zander NEEDS a good t-shirt.


  • Maynard James Keenan from Tool
  • Billy Howerdel from Ashes Divide
  • Josh Freese from Devo, Nine Inch Nails, and The Vandals
  • Paz Lenchantin from Entrance
  • and Troy Van Leeuwen from Queens of the Stone Age



A Perfect Circle

Kyle ends the show by playing "Judith" from their debut album Mer de Noms.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:05:00 Coming of Age Damn Yankees Damn Yankees Pat
00:05:00 Slither Contraband Velvet Revolver Mike
00:10:00 Finger on the Trigger Omega Asia Pat
00:10:00 Some Like It Hot The Power Station The Power Station Mike
00:15:00 We Got Something Tinted Windows Tinted Windows Pat
00:15:00 New Fang Them Crooked Vultures Them Crooked Vultures Mike
00:15:00 Rebel Say a Prayer Backlash Bad English Pat
00:20:00 We Are the World We Are the World USA for Africa Mike
00:25:00 One Last Soul Black Country Communion Black Country Communion Pat
00:25:00 Stop Draggin' My Heart Around Bella Donna Stevie Nicks and the Heartbreakers Mike
00:25:00 Top of the Rock Through the Fire HSAS Pat
00:30:00 Cochise Audioslave Audioslave Mike
00:30:00 Radioactive The Firm The Firm Pat
00:35:00 Feel Good Inc. Demon Days Gorillaz Mike
00:35:00 Angelina Neurotic Outsiders Neurotic Outsiders Pat
00:40:00 Hunger Strike Temple of the Dog Temple of the Dog Mike
00:40:00 SuperHeavy SuperHeavy SuperHeavy Pat
00:45:00 Handle with Care Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1 The Traveling Wilburys Mike
00:45:00 All the Way from Memphis Contraband Contraband Pat
00:50:00 Layla Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs Derek and the Dominos Mike
00:50:00 Can't Find My Way Home Blind Faith Blind Faith Mike
00:50:00 How Much Is Too Much? Chequered Past Chequered Past Pat
00:55:00 Woodstock Déjà Vu Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Mike
01:00:00 Judith Mer de Noms A Perfect Circle Kyle

1 comment:

  1. No comments? None? Really? OK, then, uh, firsties, I guess, and a couple of observations.
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