Thursday, December 7, 2017

Episode 334: The Terry Kath Experience



Episode 334: The Terry Kath Experience
Pat and Kyle welcome director Michelle Kath Sinclair to the show to discuss her labor of love documentary "Chicago: The Terry Kath Experience."
From Dec 7, 2017

With your hosts:

Pat Francis


Liner Notes

  • Today's guest is the daughter of the Chicago guitarist Terry Kath, Michelle Kath Sinclair. Michelle is the director of the new documentary Chicago: The Terry Kath Experience.
  • Bose the engineers of some of the world's best audio equipment, including the Bose QuietComfort 35 Noise Canceling Headphones. Everyone in studio is wearing them.Bose invented the technology in noise cancelling headphones 40 years ago. Bose believes in blocking out sounds and distractions so you can immerse yourself in what you truly love! Bose - Get Closer.
  • The documentary debuted on the ASX TV network. Michelle doesn't have cable so she had to call around to her friends to find someone who had the channel so she could watch it!
  • This is Michelle's first film. She has two boys ages 6 and 12 (and a husband). She is also a private event DJ.
  • Michelle had access to everyone she wanted in the film. Despite any personal issues going on between people in Chicago everyone loved Terry. It wasn't hard to get anyone to agree to do the interviews.
  • Some of the people it the documentary include: Jeff Lynne, Joe Walsh, Steve Lukather, and Mike Campbell
  • Michelle still had direct contact with most everyone who was in Chicago, either directly or through their wives and kids.
  • The idea to make the film was something she thought about for over 10 years. The original idea was to have it be about writing letter to her father and talking to him. After they showed first clips they put together everyone thought it seemed corny or cliche. One of her directer friends told her that she didn't have to be that literal because her "voice" would be all over the film.
  • It took 7 years to put the film together. If she makes another film it wan't take nearly that long. She learned a lot through the process and sees what could have been done better.
  • Caribou Ranch was a beautiful recording studio. The band would move out there while they recorded their albums. During the filming of the documentary the studio was sold and they had to rush out to film there.
  • Music and footage rights for any film are always a challenge. Terry's family still has all the rights to the songs he wrote. The other members of Chicago also own the songs that they wrote. Rhino Records still own all the masters of the recordings, so she still had to go to them to get the recordings.
  • Terry Kath was on 11 Chicago albums before he passed.
  • The story goes that no one wanted to sing Color My World because it seemed to soft. They decided to get Terry to sing it and he said sure. He then proceeded to lie down on the floor and sing it in one take.
  • Michell was only 2 when her father passed. She does have one memory of her dad driving the boat up at her grandparents lodge.
  • Terry liked guns and regularly carried them. Terry took the clip out of his gun but didn't realize that there was one still in the chamber. He was accidentally shot and died instantly.
  • Michelle is of course anti-gun and doesn't believe they belong in the house.
  • The most surprising thing that Michelle learned during the filming process, about her father, was that if he didn't like something Terry was going to tell you, and then you were going to change it.
  • The song Jenny is about a dog. It's a love song and he is telling the dog to take care of his lady.
  • Kiefer Suthurland did the toast at Michelle's wedding in place of her dad. Kiefer is Michelle's stepfather from about the age of ten onward. Kiefer was married to her mom and they had a daughter, so Michelle has a half-sister.
  • The movie is being released on December 12 on Video on Demand, DVD, and Blue Ray. There will be 30 minutes of bonus content on the home video release.
  • Become a patreon subscriber to have a chance to win signed copies of the movie.
  • The play out song, Little One, has the lyrics that Kiefer recites in his toast. Terry sings the song. It was the last song on the last Chicago album he was directly a part of.

00:16:53 Introduction Chicago Transit Authority Chicago Transit Authority Pat
00:26:41 Free Form Guitar Chicago Transit Authority Chicago Pat
00:26:56 I'm A Man Chicago Transit Authority Chicago Pat
00:47:53 Color My World Chicago Chicago Pat
01:04:36 Memories Of Love Chicago Chicago Pat
01:07:16 25 Or 6 To 4 Chicago Chicago Pat
01:09:44 Loneliness Is Just A Word Chicago III Chicago Pat
01:11:16 An Hour In The Shower Chicago III Chicago Pat
01:20:58 Dialogue (Part One) Chicago V Chicago Pat
01:26:17 Jenny Chicago VI Chicago Pat
01:32:31 Brand New Love Afair Chicago VIII Chicago Pat
01:39:40 Little Ones Chcago XI Chicago Pat

Thursday, November 30, 2017

Episode 333: Walter Egan



Episode 333: Walter Egan
Pat and Kyle sit down with 70's hit-maker Walter Egan to discuss his Top Ten hit "Magnet and Steel" plus everything else that came before and after.
From Nov 30, 2017

With your hosts:

Pat Francis


Liner Notes

  • Walter Egan is best known for song that made it to #8 in 1978, Magnet and Steel.
  • Walter now plays with Malibooz. This was his high school band. The band was reconstituted after the success of Magnet and Steel.
  • Walter got his first guitar when he was 15 and learned to play with his Kingston Trio songbook. He was told that if he got an electric guitar he could join a band. He had to convince his parents that this was in their best interest.
  • Malibooz morphed into Sagewood after the leader of the band, John, left for academic pursuits and Walter took over.
  • Sagewood got an offer from producer Chris Darrow, of Nitty Gritty Dirt Band fame. They moved to Boston from DC the year after college because the others thought it was to risky to move straight out to LA.
  • Gram Parsons recorded a song that Walter wrote called Hears On Fire. When that happened it seemed like a good time to make the transition to LA. Walter still makes a few hundred dollars a quarter from the song.
  • The first song he ever sold, to be recorded, was to a local DC artist Ester Mae "Mama" Scott. It was called Come To Me and was on the album Mama Ain't Nobody's Fool.
  • In April of 1974, just as Walter was arriving in LA, Bernie Leadon was leaving Eagles. Walter wrote a letter to Glen Frey and told him he was on the way out there. They met up at the Troubador and Glen told him that he would make it if he just persevered.
  • Fundamental Roles, Walter's first album came out just 3 years latter in 1977.
  • The fist song and single that Walter wrote in California was Only The Lucky.
  • Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham are all over the first album. They were recording Rumors at the time and Walter was looking for a producer. He wanted Brian Wilson, but so did everyone else. Nicks and Buckingham were mentioned as possibilities and it seemed intriguing.
  • While recording the album, they created a studio bane and both Stevie and Lindsey were in it. Stevie is on 8 of the 10 or 11 songs on the album. Stevie and Lindsey were generally not in the studio together, as this was at the time of their breakup.
  • In December of 1976, Walter started dating Stevie. It added way more complication to recording the album.
  • The first movie the song Magnet and Steel was ever in was The Night We Never Met with Matthew Broderick. Another movie it was in was Overnight Delivery, a movie that bypassed the theaters to go directly to the home. At the same time the studio wanted wanted the song for Overnight Delivery, they also wanted it for an R-rated Burt Reynolds they were shooting. He said OK and that movie ended up being Boogie Nights. The song was also featured as the love theme in Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo.
  • The album Hi Fi was recorded at Stevie Nicks house in the Hollywood Hills.
  • The shirt that Walter wears on the cover of Last Stroll has famous connections. Jan and Dean hosted The T.A.M.I. Show (a famous concert) in 1964 where they wore that Go Go t-shirt.
  • On the first album cover there are a couple of cheerleaders and on Wild Exhibitions there are a couple as well. On the first album the girls well Selma and Tammy and on the second they were Tammy and Jennifer. Tammy (from Wild Exhibitions), the dark haired one, became Walter's wife. The other cheerleader, Jennifer, is Tammy's sister. Walter and Tammy are divorced but living together again.
  • Wild Exhibitions was on a new label, Backstreet Records, which was also Tom Petty's label. Back in September of 1978 Walter and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were on tour together for two weeks. They traded off opening and closing out the shows. This happened just before Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers really broke it big.
  • Skip Edwards played keyboard on the song Maybe Maybe and after that went to go play for Dwight Yoakum, A short time after after that Dwight released a song called Fast As You that sounds very similar.
  • Walter got married in 1984 and had his son in 1985. He had to start doing the family thing and started to explore alternative careers. He made a few game show appearances, reviewed books, and did substitute teaching.
  • Walter inherited the house where he grew up in Queens and moved the family back there. His daughter was born a few years later.
  • Walter continues to substitute teach at a school just outside of Nashville. He likes it because he can work when he feels like it. During the summer he teaches song writing to kids at summer camp.
  • Bose the engineers of some of the world's best audio equipment, including the Bose QuietComfort 35 Noise Canceling Headphones. Everyone in studio is wearing them.Bose invented the technology in noise cancelling headphones 40 years ago. Bose believes in blocking out sounds and distractions so you can immerse yourself in what you truly love! Bose - Get Closer.

00:18:06 Only The Lucky Fundamental Roll Walter Egan Pat
00:24:39 Won't You Say You Will Fundamental Roll Walter Egan Pat
00:36:03 Feel So Good Fundamental Roll Walter Egan Pat
00:39:29 Magnet And Steel Not Shy Walter Egan Pat
00:46:44 Just The Wanting Not Shy Walter Egan Pat
00:47:51 Hot Summer Nights Not Shy Walter Egan Pat
01:00:44 That's That Hi Fi Walter Egan Pat
01:08:22 Hi Fi Love Hi Fi Walter Egan Pat
01:10:43 Tuesday Weld The Last Stroll Walter Egan Pat
01:12:45 Heart The Last Stroll Walter Egan Pat
01:23:50 Fool Moon Firo Wild Exhibitions Walter Egan Pat
01:25:15 Maybe Maybe Wild Exhibitions Walter Egan Pat
01:27:27 Fast as You This Time Dwight Yoakam Walter Egan
01:37:07 Crazy Reign True Stories [LIVE in Studio] Walter Egan Walter Egan
01:49:10 Old Photographs True Stories Walter Egan Pat

Thursday, November 23, 2017

Episode 332: Siegel Stinkeroos



Episode 332: Siegel Stinkeroos
Pat, Kyle and the originator of the "Siegel Stinkeroos" Mike Siegel play 90 minutes of stinkers on this fun filled episode!
From Nov 23, 2017

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

Mike Siegel


Liner Notes

  • Bose the engineers of some of the world's best audio equipment, including the Bose QuietComfort 35 Noise Canceling Headphones. Everyone in studio is wearing them.Bose invented the technology in noise cancelling headphones 40 years ago. Bose believes in blocking out sounds and distractions so you can immerse yourself in what you truly love! Bose - Get Closer.
  • Mike's last travels took him to Mazatlan for a Day of the Dead ceremony. It was really hot.
  • James Brown's 50th studio album Cakes was named after slang for a woman's ass. The album cover looks like something JJ from Good Times would paint.
  • Patreon subscribers, again, helped pick songs to play this week.
  • You Got The Touch was originally written for the movie Cobra by Stan Bush but it was not used.
  • Mike finished the John Oates book. There was no real dirt on Daryl Hall in the book. One interesting thing is that when John was in a band back in Philadelphia their singer was Frank Stallone.

00:08:08 For Goodness Sakes, Look At Those Cakes Take A Look At Those Cakes James Brown Pat
00:11:33 Freedom Driving Rain Paul McCartney David Gutiérrez [Patreon Subscriber]
00:14:11 The Touch Boogie Nights Soundtrack Mark Wahlberg Mike
00:17:41 (I Wanna Be) Your Underwear 18 Till I Die Bryan Adams Pat
00:20:44 Dad I'm In Jail What Up, Dog? Was (Not Was) Dana McKissick [Patreon Subscriber]
00:22:43 Mother Synchronicity The Police Mike
00:25:14 Easy Money Wrecking Ball Bruce Spingsteen Pat
00:29:09 Up for Breakfast The Best of Both Worlds Van Halen Randy Kaylor [Patreon Subscriber]
00:31:49 How Many Say I Van Halen III Van Halen Tim O' Sullivan [Patreon Subscriber]
00:34:27 Cars Are Cars Hearts and Bones Paul Simon Mike
00:37:02 At The Movies Three Cord Opera Neil Diamond Pat
00:39:02 Used To Be Used To Be Charlene and Stevie Wonder Jeffery Thames
00:41:43 We Are The Clash Cut The Crap The Clash Mike
00:43:49 Brandon Generation Swine Mötley Crüe Pat
00:47:44 Miranda Miranda [Single] Adam West Mike Ensley [Patreon Subscriber]
00:49:20 You Only See Her Miranda [Single] Adam West Kyle
00:50:28 My World Use Your Illusion II Guns N Roses Mike
00:52:14 Get 'Ya Some Hollyweird Poison Pat
00:54:14 Smart Girls Sweet Insanity Brian Wilson Mike
00:56:26 Ride The Pony Woke Up With A Monster Cheap Trick Pat
00:58:16 Hey Foxymophandlemama, That's Me Vitalogy Pearl Jam Mike
00:58:56 Bugs Vitalogy Pearl Jam Mike
01:01:06 Baby I'm A Leavin' You Trial By Fire [Remastered] Journey Pat
01:02:56 Who Dunnit? Abacab Genesis Micheal Bagford [Patreon Subscriber]
01:04:04 Illegal Alien Genesis Genesis Pat
01:06:43 German Kid Standing In The Spotlight Dee Dee King Mike
01:07:43 Funky Man Funky Man [Single] Dee Dee King Mike
01:10:58 (You Make Me) Rock Hard Smashes, Thrashes & Hits Kiss Pat
01:13:46 St. Anger St. Anger Metallica Mike
01:17:14 Frantic St. Anger Metallica Kyle
01:18:27 Music Time Caught In The Act Styx Pat
01:23:16 The Laughing Gnome The Laughing Gnome (Single) David Bowie Mike
01:27:51 Cheatin' Heart Cafe Your Filthy Little Mouth David Lee Roth Pat